FMCB Installer Boot Tutorials

Bootlegninja · #**251** 08-31-2008, 08:05 PM

Thanks, but I'll have to pass on that one. I'm aiming to keep them as simple as possible when it comes to others translating. Add the WBB in there, and it will become next to impossible to get translations. On top of that, I would probably have to ask to use one of the MySQL databases to run it. too much work.

Also, I'm almost to the point of asking foreign sites to host tutorials in thier native language and just post a link to it. The only thing stoping me from doing that is that I have more controll over getting them updated in my file space. And worse come to worse, I can always use babelfish to do a crude translation. But I sooner have no translated tutorial than that.

Bootlegninja · #**252** 09-01-2008, 07:29 AM

Just an update. If you se a 404 page, don't sweat it. I'm rearranging and organizing the mess to get ready for the FMCB 1.7 tut.

slicer74 · #**253** 09-01-2008, 08:54 PM

I'll be please to help u with the french tuto but dont want to create the whole bunch. So if i can simply edit the one that u make with the translator, it will be easy for me.

JNABK · #**254** 09-01-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by slicer74

I'll be please to help u with the french tuto but dont want to create the whole bunch. So if i can simply edit the one that u make with the translator, it will be easy for me.

We had encouraged people to translate, but we also said they will be updated and require the translations updated too. After the initial translations, nobody updated them {well a few were} , leaving them incorrect for some of the info we changed.

Free McBoot is a work in progress and so will the tutorials and Guides as long as it is. So i discussed this with bootleg and we decided not to host the translations anymore since they are not up to date with the continued changes.

Anyone wishing to translate a copy is more than welcome, but you will need to host it yourself somewhere you can keep up with the updates. We will add the link to your translated copy and credit you with the translation.

Bootlegninja · #**255** 09-01-2008, 10:17 PM

current translations will be housed until the 1.6b/1.7 tutorial goes up. then it will be only English tutorials.

After such time, links to translated ones can be posted here and will be mirrored in the first post. That's about as far as I'll go on this any more iwth translations now since there's no real demand for it. Why stress over it for that reason?

F@TMAN · #**256** 09-04-2008, 02:44 PM

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Was attempting installation using cd-method (since my console is already modded), which seemed to load and install fine, all for the fact that it doesn't copy any of the files from the install dir (such as ELF's, modules, etc). When I reboot my console, I receive the custom boot screen and goes straight to browser. However, when I return to root menu, none of the button options work (and no hacked OSDSYS options). I've tried re-installing a couple of times, writing my own FMCB CNF file, but doesn't seem to work. Appreciate any feedback, cheers.

Huh. could have sworn FMCB has issues with Messiah chips.

Guess I gotta start a compatibility list on that..

People post your experinces with your chip on FMCB install and usage.

I need System region (and SCPH #)
Chip used.
Chip firmware used - I know on older chips you won't get that info. but newer ones you do.
only use current release FMCB (currently 1.6 is it)

can't post that info, don't post about it at all.

I don't see how my mod would have any bearing on the success of the installation (shouldn't pose a conflict?). I'm using PAL SCPH30002R V5 w/ messiah clone.

dmcbudman · #**257** 09-04-2008, 04:07 PM

not sure about your chip
but cd based installs dont work proper yet (as you know)
so if no other elfs were copied, they will not show in the hacked OSD
if you have a usb drive id try /BOOT/BOOT.ELF from there
and see if it shows in the OSD

dlanor · #**258** 09-04-2008, 07:54 PM

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I don't see how my mod would have any bearing on the success of the installation (shouldn't pose a conflict?).

On what basis do you make the assumption that it shouldn't pose a conflict ?
What hard facts do you really have to go on there ?

I also do not see exactly how the modchip of my v7 PS2 (DMS4proSE) would have any bearing on it, but the fact remains that it does. Without disabling the modchip it is impossible for me to make a working FMCB installation on that console, but with the modchip disabled there is no problem at all.

Once installed correctly FMCB does work regardless of whether the chip is enabled or not, though the chip overrides the soft mod at boot time if not disabled. But going to the Sony browser from uLE with chip enabled works the same as with it disabled, showing the FMCB modifications of that Sony menu.

Best regards: dlanor

JNABK · #**259** 09-04-2008, 08:12 PM

I must agree with dlanor to the fact a modchip does have a direct impact on FMCB ability to function properly.

Consider what each is attempting to do, boot the system with a set of instructions, giving undesired results.

Installing on a chiped console hasnt caused any issue for me, but it cant be said with any truth that it couldnt have an effect there either.

eisenstein · #**260** 09-21-2008, 05:58 AM

I have a Japanese console 79000. I have Swapmagic 3.6 for US and I'm borrowing my friends 77001. I've successfully installed FMCB 1.7 for use on my friends console using the SM3.6 discs, but I'd like to get it installed for use on mine. Is there any way to install the Japanese version using my friends console? Can I not just upload a Japanese image to my MC?

Bootlegninja · #**261** 09-21-2008, 06:10 AM

@@$#&&^^$%$#@ rtfm

eisenstein · #**262** 09-21-2008, 09:49 AM

I knew when I posted this I was likely to raise some ire, but a simple yes this is possible or no it ain't would have sufficed. I've spent all day, literally, reading anything I can find, most of which points to "no". If I could have found it I wouldn't be asking.

eisenstein · #**263** 09-21-2008, 10:36 AM

I have just gone through the tutorial on sksapps.com again to make sure I didn't miss something. I'm guessing this is the "manual" you are refering too.

There is no readily available documentation that explains the install process, i.e. what is being done and why it is being done. I have also not found any documentation for or against my specific case. From reading this thread in its entirety I was able to discern that installs of FMCB will only work on consoles of the same region even if their version numbers differ. However, there is no clear explanation that you cannot perform an installation for another region, at least, not explaining why it is not possible.

My assumption is that the DVDELF file needs to be decrypted by the console, during the installation, which it can't do for other regions' files. However, there is no explanation as to why I can't just have someone generate the files for me and just upload them to the MC.

I'm just looking for the definitive answer, can this be done or am I wasting my time searching for the solution?

dlanor · #**264** 09-21-2008, 03:13 PM

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II'm just looking for the definitive answer,

One definite answer coming right up.

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can this be done

No.

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or am I wasting my time searching for the solution?

Yes, you are wasting your time.

All FMCB installations must be performed on a console of the same region as the one where the installed boot file is to be used.

Best regards: dlanor

JNABK · #**265** 09-21-2008, 05:01 PM

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There is no readily available documentation that explains the install process, i.e. what is being done and why it is being done.

And you realize this is a homebrew application, right? Most homebrew apps document useage, not technical processes. This is what the forums are for when inquiring about technical specifications, but thats not what you were asking about. Your question was about cross region installing. You had already answered your own question: [reading anything I can find, most of which points to "no".]

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Originally Posted by eisenstein

I have also not found any documentation for or against my specific case. From reading this thread in its entirety I was able to discern that installs of FMCB will only work on consoles of the same region even if their version numbers differ.

Im glad to see someone can actually find info thru reading.

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Originally Posted by eisenstein

However, there is no clear explanation that you cannot perform an installation for another region, at least, not explaining why it is not possible.

Explaining in details why its not possible is only useful to those who have the ability to attempt to make it possible, so what purpose would this serve to explain that? A simple "it dont work if you do that" is more than enough information.

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My assumption is that the DVDELF file needs to be decrypted by the console, during the installation, which it can't do for other regions' files.

yep, that is explained in many areas of the Free Vast Forums

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However, there is no explanation as to why I can't just have someone generate the files for me and just upload them to the MC.

Because they are signed to the specific MC they are installed on and it is documented in the Free Vast Continues thread.

I understand there is a lot to read, but all your asking about is documented and available for those who want to know about how Free McBoot works. Its a matter of searching and reading, starting in the Free vast forums

I have updated the Installation Guide with a few comments for Cross region installs and copying , hopefully it is enough to understand. A simple sentence is sometimes better than a long explaination, especially to those who dont want to read first.

I have found most people who ask are those who simply install without reading , then ask questions when its not working as they expected [in their mind], then after pointing out the info from the Guides and Tutorials, they suddenly report a successful installation.

eisenstein · #**266** 09-21-2008, 06:36 PM

I have poured over the the Free Vast thread, but expecting people to read 3000+ posts, not practical for the majority.

As for not being able to cross install, I suspect the problem is not that the DVDELF must be decrypted as this can be done on another console of the same region that has access to ELF. The problem is with the signing. Even though I can access the MCID for the MC through my second PS2, the MCID seems to be generated and will be different between the regions. Without being able to extract the proper region MCID I can't combine the two on a compromised system and then upload it to my MC for use on my system.

Not looking for answer, just providing food for thought. There is no way to find the hardcoded serial for an MC and then use a program to generate the proper MCID?

Bootlegninja · #**267** 09-21-2008, 06:58 PM

manual = tutorial

CZroe · #**268** 09-21-2008, 10:52 PM

Last I checked, the FMCB 1.7 CD install guide still had a 1.6 reference that should be 1.7. It was the part about optionally adding a disc volume label.

Anyway, do you think you could add a section for making an install DVD for those that only have DVDs around and an install DVDV for those that only have Memento or ESR? That would make it a true "disc" install guide (as opposed to CD-only).The ESR thread has homebrew DVDV compilation instructions that will probably apply. It also references guides for converting CD backups to DVD to be patched and executed with ESR. Can anyone point me in the right direction for finding these?

FMCB Installer Boot Tutorials

Installing for other MG console