Free Vast Continues

[dlanor]

Originally Posted by solidus27

Yeah that was what I wanted. I thought that I could include some files of something on the SYS-Conf folder or somewhere so I could launch uLaunchELF from the PS2 menu.

If all you really wanted was to boot uLE, then I think your modchip can do it, as it is a Matrix Infinity clone with support for Dev1 booting. But it can't let you choose to do it in the Sony menu, like FMCB does.

Instead you either have to setup the chip to use Dev1 booting by default, or you have to press a button (read your mod-chip docs) to override the current default to use Dev1 instead.

Dev1 booting normally means that you launch a program stored as "mc0:/BOOT/BOOT.ELF", which is exactly how FMCB installs uLE. (Not a coincidence...)

Best regards: dlanor

[JNABK]

Originally Posted by jimmikaelkael

Pad delay can be set to 0 in next release.
I make it detect if it must use the 900ms delay or not.
This security is now hardcoded.

To have an up to date of configurator, I must tell suloku, what changes have been done.
I've not PM'd him yet...

I've updated the Pad Delay popup page with this info.

And i will add the info about the BOOT.ELF check for the installer too. Thanks for adding that! Im sure a lot of noobs will appreciate it.

[thczero13]

euhhhh license of what is allowed, and what is forbidden for a "exploit" that is long ago already had be done and what about memento without ripping that apart you never figured how you could make it done

and what is the difference of 1.5 sources+launcher2+osdmod3 with the new 1.6

so the only license i could think off is that jimmikaelkael and neme name should be appear somewhere readeble on screen maybey dlanor too because some ule code is included too soluko gets honors through his config-app , ffgriever has his logo already implented a bit to big Loading screen a small logo with loading text was sufficient

and making to much options will take away the fun for using them its got completed when it reached de osdmod with the 10 options the auto-dvdv will make it 100%


but respect to all who were and are really involved

[JNABK]

The point of a license is to inform anyone who wishes to take the program and alter it that there are restrictions being placed on what you are permitted to do with said program. Failure to comply with the license gives the owner(s) the right to seek legal action against those who would otherwise violate that license agreement.

Its not about putting a name on the program for getting credit, thats done with the logo already.

Originally Posted by thczero13

euhhhh license of what is allowed, and what is forbidden for a "exploit" that is long ago already had be done and what about memento without ripping that apart you never figured how you could make it done

Actually this project started with codeJunkies 64MB memory plus program. Yes memento was 'studied', but it has surpassed memento's abilities and doesnt use anything belonging to them, so it belongs to the developers of the project and nobody else can claim it as theirs.

[solidus27]

Originally Posted by dlanor

If all you really wanted was to boot uLE, then I think your modchip can do it, as it is a Matrix Infinity clone with support for Dev1 booting. But it can't let you choose to do it in the Sony menu, like FMCB does.

Instead you either have to setup the chip to use Dev1 booting by default, or you have to press a button (read your mod-chip docs) to override the current default to use Dev1 instead.

Dev1 booting normally means that you launch a program stored as "mc0:/BOOT/BOOT.ELF", which is exactly how FMCB installs uLE. (Not a coincidence...)

Best regards: dlanor

I do know about Dev1 and I've been using it for quite some time, but I browse alot between PS2 menu/browser and uLaunchELF, and I have to restart the PS2 everytime I want to go to uLE again!

[dlanor]

Originally Posted by solidus27

I do know about Dev1 and I've been using it for quite some time, but I browse alot between PS2 menu/browser and uLaunchELF, and I have to restart the PS2 everytime I want to go to uLE again!

In that case FMCB is the only cure, as it is the only homebrew method that allows you to restart homebrew elfs after using the Sony MC browser, without restarting the console by physical reset or power_on.

Best regards: dlanor

[hackoba]

@Bootleg:
OK I'm cool now, sorry I'm so sentive.

@dlanor:
Thank you for explaining about childproofing of the browser, I understand now.
Thank you..your a good man.

God Bless all you guys involved in this project.

[jimmikaelkael]

Originally Posted by thczero13

euhhhh license of what is allowed, and what is forbidden for a "exploit" that is long ago already had be done and what about memento without ripping that apart you never figured how you could make it done

and what is the difference of 1.5 sources+launcher2+osdmod3 with the new 1.6

so the only license i could think off is that jimmikaelkael and neme name should be appear somewhere readeble on screen maybey dlanor too because some ule code is included too soluko gets honors through his config-app , ffgriever has his logo already implented a bit to big Loading screen a small logo with loading text was sufficient

and making to much options will take away the fun for using them its got completed when it reached de osdmod with the 10 options the auto-dvdv will make it 100%


but respect to all who were and are really involved

You're just far of truth...
FMCB is not a rip of Memento.

Memento just inspired us, but our researches were more based off DVD player update. Man where did you see that memento can generate a valid magicgate ID for all memcards ?
where did you see that memento can Inject the file of your choice ?
where did you see that memento is FREE ? (I mean both price & code, EDIT : & I just think memor32 and memento are both linked...)

And finally where did you see that FMCB can run backups ? Credit for ESR goes to ffgriever.

Maybe you believe that all comes chewed to our mouth... pshh

Sure that some code is borrowed to uLE, and Dlanor & EP gets credit for that.
This borrowed code is just some useful functions, yeah
But without the whole injecting and ID generating code... It doesn't boot the ps2.

Sure too that Credits for the configurator goes to suloku, but the configurator is an external ELF, I just wait suloku (and not soluko or sudoku like I read sometimes) add credits to his program

[TnA]

Originally Posted by thczero13

euhhhh license of what is allowed, and what is forbidden for a "exploit" that is long ago already had be done and what about memento without ripping that apart you never figured how you could make it done

The only thing Memento was used for, was studying how the MG-Exploit work.
FMCB itself is a Standalone-Loader, which doesn't rely in any way to the MG-Exploit itself (except, that it uses it to start automatically,...).

Memento is in fact illegal (in most countries), because they share part of Sony-Code in there Memor32-Flashes,...
(That depends on how the MG-Exploit is created,...)
That's what was discovered on this forums and since that, I never saw a Memento-Update,... lol

...and as Memento NEVER was in ANY relation with the Memor32-Cards ...and Memento was a "free hacker team"...
...we also could hack and share it, if we want... Don't know, if there was a license, that denies that,... ^^
(*Edit.2: )

The FMCB-Installer, which build the osdmain.elf, doesn't come with ANY copyrighted files and is also "open-source".
All FMCB-Parts,... The FMCB-Installer, which holds the (MGX-)installer-routine, to create a valid "osdmain.elf", the FMCB-Loader itself,... (ESR not, because it is his own "module",... Same to the configurator,... They extend FMCB, but also mustn't be installed,...)

About, what you talking a rip-off from Memento,...

FMCB is totally written from scratch,... There was NOTHING ripped from memento.
There was only the final encrypted memento-fw-files, which gets studied, to recreate the MG-Exploit "per hand" (how to encrypt a custom PS2-OSD- and/or PS2-DVD-Upgrade.). <-- Edit: As Jimmi mentioned, the DVD-Player-Upgrade-Discs were more useful here,...
FMCB is also compatible with (nearly) all PS2-Versions, where Memento just works in a few MagicGate-Regions,...

Was there any real rip from Memento?
The only thing, I could remember, was that someone finds the args SkipMC in Memento-Flash and we could use it now in FMCB.
But that wasn't a rip, it was a little Argument-String, beside OSDSYS-Execution-Algo.
It was readable and so on "addable",... FMCB sends "args" to OSDSYS, to permit some options, or to jump the Sony-Logo, or these things,...

and what is the difference of 1.5 sources+launcher2+osdmod3 with the new 1.6

I didn't get, what you mean.
1.6 is more evolved, than 1.5. Not only the loader evolves, but also the installer,...

so the only license i could think off is that jimmikaelkael and neme name should be appear somewhere readeble on screen maybey dlanor too because some ule code is included too soluko gets honors through his config-app , ffgriever has his logo already implented a bit to big Loading screen a small logo with loading text was sufficient

Jimmi could even leave it closed source,...
FMCB is a standalone-loader,... It is in no relation, to Memento,... It is Open-SRC,... and it is written from scratch,... Need to know more?

There are just a few easy things you must follow, when agreeing the FMCB-License,...

and making to much options will take away the fun for using them its got completed when it reached de osdmod with the 10 options the auto-dvdv will make it 100% but respect to all who were and are really involved

I think, the scrolling is good "as is" (that's a part of what the license say,... "...take FMCB as is,...").
But I agree,... We maybe not need every "nonsense"-function (in OSD and core).

But afaik, Neme didn't really implemented functions, that are "nonsense" to osdmod3 and I doubt, Jimmi will implement it to final, if it is a pure fun-option,...



Edit: Jimmi was faster,...

(* Edit.2: I'm with you Jimmi,... But as long as they "BOTH" stated their-self, that they have no relation to each other and afaik Memento doesn't have a license, we are free to do what we want in this case,... )

[thczero13]

relax everbody its not a flame

I cant's see that i wrote that fmcb is a ripoff

but the word ripping that i wrote in that alinea is meant as study altering modding disassembele

and i followed the threat a while an even read lost pages from ps2-scene which you can find in the beginning of this topic

and what i understand from what i reading is

it is a original ps2 function (looking for a specific file in mc at bootup)
someone has it in the beginning of the scene but never released it
Vast memento datel were the first who used that function
JIMMIKAELKAEL studied hard and was able to create it without illigal use of ps2code after a while and even made it availible for almost every ps2-mc
and shared it with the ps2 community
Other members improved the function example neme osd , soluko fmcb-config
dlanor ule


License isseu got up after people make way too much profit of the hard study from nice people little award is allowed but no overkill so bmp2c screens apear to block the moneymakers (and i think if you want you can make it even harder to mod the bootscreens i am no coder or whatever)

but it looks weird to me to license something that is availible and shared by yourself without license notes and with this i mean the code to mc-id etc is availble in the 1.5 sources not that i encourage unwilled use of it


and oke i'm sorry ffgriever has his own topic but was more example for difference in bootscreen and not the esr function if you read that alinea

and for the rest too much options is overkill but that is mine opinion or thoughts

and let we go futher with nice improvements for the community then get stucked at weird opinion thought of license from a forumreader like me

[drcatj18]

Which Is The Easiest To Install/Use?

Free MC Boot
Memento
ESR

I Currently Use Memor32 With ESR Seems The Easiest. "FMCB" You Have To Edit OSD And Whatnot. So What Does Everyone Else Think? I Heard It Can Be Launched From PS2's With Dead Lasers... Is This True? Can I Get All The FACTS Please Before I decide To Change To "FMCB"

[jimmikaelkael]

Originally Posted by thczero13

JIMMIKAELKAEL studied hard and was able to create it without illigal use of ps2code after a while and even made it availible for almost every ps2-mc and shared it with the ps2 community

No need to put my name in upper case !
I was not working alone, Neme is part of this project.
Without him, no FMCB at all...

Originally Posted by thczero13

but it looks weird to me to license something that is availible and shared by yourself without license notes and with this i mean the code to mc-id etc is availble in the 1.5 sources not that i encourage unwilled use of it

No official FMCB release is under license afaik. The next will be.
And when it will be published, older sources will be removed.

[dlanor]

Originally Posted by drcatj18

Which Is The Easiest To Install/Use?

Free MC Boot
Memento
ESR

I Currently Use Memor32 With ESR Seems The Easiest.

It probably is one of the easiest ways to get started, as it provides a direct link for using a PC to store files on the MC. But once you have homebrew programs running, by any means at all, that sort of thing is easy even with normal memory cards.

"FMCB" You Have To Edit OSD And Whatnot.

No. You don't have to edit anything manually, except that you have to prepare the installer package correctly (adding the files that are not part of FMCB). The 'editing' of the OSD menu is then handled automatically by the installer. Editing the setup manually is an option that you can choose to ignore if you don't want it.

So What Does Everyone Else Think?

I can only speak for myself, and I say that in my opinion FMCB is the best homebrew boot method ever released. And that includes all the commercial ones.

I Heard It Can Be Launched From PS2's With Dead Lasers... Is This True?

Yes, many users have now revived PS2 consoles that they considered 'dead' simply because their lasers were dead. With FMCB the main booting is independent of any disc, so the laser is not involved in this boot method.

Can I Get All The FACTS Please Before I decide To Change To "FMCB"

All the facts is asking a bit much, as I don't have that kind of time to spend on a single post, but most of the facts are already available in various threads here, especially those that lead on to proper tutorials. Browse around a bit, read some tutorials, and I'm sure you'll soon know enough to come to a decision.

Best regards: dlanor

[suloku]

Originally Posted by jimmikaelkael

Sure too that Credits for the configurator goes to suloku, but the configurator is an external ELF, I just wait suloku (and not soluko or sudoku like I read sometimes) add credits to his program

I didn't really get this, if you meant adding something like ESR's and fmcb's splash screens, I can add the credits at the "select X/O" screen, I haven't add any credits because I didn't want to retard the booting, but now there's a lot of space in that screen for the credits

But anyway I won't add any image, just a new square with text ^^

[JNABK]

Originally Posted by suloku

But anyway I won't add any image, just a new square with text ^^

Aww.......wouldnt ya rather me make ya a nice 'Free McBoot Configurator' image?


....maybe like this....

[Neme]

Originally Posted by thczero13

what about memento without ripping that apart you never figured how you could make it done

Memento did nothing related to installing to standard memcards, so there was no point in ripping that apart. As jimmi said we studied the DVD update discs (and did rip them apart ).