Forum: IDE HDD Discussion - Discussion about the use of the IDE HDD Interface and hdloader related discussion.


The above video goes away if you are a member and logged in, so log in now!




 
Would you like to get all the new info from
PSX-Scene in your email each day?




Want to learn more about the team keeping you up to date with the latest scene news?

Read about them now!

Check out our Developer bios, too!

 


User Tag List

Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By TnA

Thread: reccomended disk defragmenter
  

Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1 Exclamation reccomended disk defragmenter 
    xXyunaXx is offline Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    56
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Likes Given
    5
    Likes Received
    0
    what should i use?
    for now i use the scan/repair function of winhiip but then i hear some weird scratching noises in my actual HDD while its repairing so uh.. i dunno =/ i dont want to like damage my hdd.. so what other programs do you use for defragmentations of the hdd for internal use in the ps2?
    its not like my hdd shows up in any normal ddefragmentation program either >_> and i have already 0.38Gb fragments (according to winhiip)
    Reply With Quote  

  2. #2  
    ichibaka is offline Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    293
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Likes Given
    0
    Likes Received
    0
    you can't defrag an hdd formatted in ps2 file system. And if you hear weird scratching noise that ain't normal and you should really do some stress test to ascertain its health status. If you want to be extra sure then 0 erase everything then reformat to a windows file system and do read/write test with some really large files.
    I'm a nobody, and nobody is perfect, therefore I AM PERFECT
    Reply With Quote  

  3. #3  
    xXyunaXx is offline Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    56
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Likes Given
    5
    Likes Received
    0
    well if i cant defrag it then why does it say i have 0.38GB fragmentation i mean isnt it bad if my hdd is fragmented ? and i cannot defrag my hdd why does winhip even say info about the fragmentation of my hdd >_< and yes it does the weird scratching noise.. its a bit high pitched like needle scratching on a glass or something but it also does that when it installs games and also while loading games from it so i think for now its no big deal no damage done so far^^ but then again how would i go about checking the health of this hdd anyways? since its in the pfs format and wont show in disk management either
    and thanks for your reply~
    Reply With Quote  

  4. #4  
    xXyunaXx is offline Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    56
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Likes Given
    5
    Likes Received
    0
    BUMP
    please help .... the fragments on my hdd are keep growing larger and larger.. according to winhiip its already 3GB at this rate my hdd will deteriorate and break down.. please tell me how to defragment this hdd.. so i can rid them of the fragments.. please.. this hdd costed alot..
    Reply With Quote  

  5. #5  
    xXyunaXx is offline Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    56
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Likes Given
    5
    Likes Received
    0
    BUMP come on... anybody reply please!!!
    Reply With Quote  

  6. #6  
    Player1's Avatar
    Player1 is offline Member
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    URUGUAY
    Posts
    378
    Downloads
    4
    Uploads
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Likes Given
    0
    Likes Received
    4
    Please, read some info about the way hdds write and read data, you are crying for nothing, EVERY hdd in the world is fragmented, it is the normal way to work.
    Other way none hdd could be big enought to store contiguos data . They HAVE TO use fragmented spaces to write, understood?

    Winhiip only tell you what none other program tells, just THAT.
    You have a piece of free space located between the data stored .
    You dont know if is just ONE only piece or 5444 of them, right?
    Winhiip doesnt care about it.


    BUT...
    If you have a +300GB hdd and see suddenly some problem to play some game that worked till today... THEN...you could only take ALL images OUT and reinsert them, that way every game will be rewrited in one only piece followed by another game, again and again... Check that order in winhiip tabs named "logical" "alphabetical"...
    Just select those games you know always would play and put them first, after that put those you are just testing or you know youll delete them.

    An small hdd is no a problem unless you EVERY DAY delete and write games for years, and maybe not even, and is not related to fragments anyway.
    ITS JUST LIFESPAN.
    I work with this system almost daily and can tell you: dont worry about it anymore.
    Just dont drop the hdd or the play2 while working, that s all.


    Just look for info and let that hdd alone.

    PS: Doesnt exist a defragmenter for PS2 hdds.
    If your hdd is getting too noisy, just buy another hdd before you lose all games.
    Last edited by Player1; 05-25-2011 at 09:29 PM.
    Reply With Quote  

  7. #7  
    xXyunaXx is offline Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    56
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Likes Given
    5
    Likes Received
    0
    ah ok thanks for that ^^ it cleared up alot of things~
    cheers!^^
    Reply With Quote  

  8. #8  
    TnA's Avatar
    TnA
    TnA is offline Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    4,580
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Likes Given
    12
    Likes Received
    30
    The PS2s Partitioning-System and Filesystem isn't quite as on a PC.

    -A partition is a multiple of 128MB.
    -When a new partition is created, those 128MB-slices which are between partitions (and not yet allocated to/by any partition) are used and allocated to the new partition.
    -You can call those partition/128MB-slices 'sub-partitions' for example...
    -This fragments don't hurt at all... The only case were these partition-slices do matter is with Dual/Double-Layer-Games (the second layer needs to be continous, but I'm not sure, if OPL also suffers from this limitation)
    -these 'fragments'/128MB-slices are used and allocated to a new partition, once you create it.

    Fragmentation doesn't matter for such sizes.
    Data-(read&write-)rate are not affected by it...
    It would be different, how smaller the fragments were and how more fragments were available, but due to the PS2-Specific FS, this doesn't matter!
    lazsko likes this.
    PS2 V7/DMS3 V2 (FW:2.4b7); Seagate Baracuda 200GB
    PS2 V7/CC1.0 (FW:34 hacked v2 BM:2.1.6); Maxtor DiamondMAX9 PLUS 160GB
    PS2 SCPH-30004R; NoMod+NoLaser

    3xSony BBA
    3xSony MC 8MB
    MAX/Datel 16MB with Boot-CD
    MAX/Datel 32MB&64MB

    Custom FMCB 1.8b+ Beta-Build, my AIO 0.5, Sony&xRhino-Linux
    Reply With Quote  

Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •