ok i know i will get bashed for not searching etc,etc!but i have and all i do is get more confused!!! this is what i have a new ps2 (like two days old) so prob a v10(?) 50001/97011 is what the box says, a new maxtor 160 gig hdd, a mem card that boots to ps2 menu (used psxme090 to do this), network thingy, a fried ps2 v7(after attempting a mod-chip),codebreaker 8.1, usb jump drive 128 meg, what i want to do is get hdloader or hdavance or some sort of prog to run the hard drive w/o modding the ps2!! ive popped the cover off the cd/dvd drive and can slide the pin, how can i go about this without going in around 100 different directions? some replies do this here and im not knowledgeable enough with these to know all this stuff.thanx for any help, ps the search doesnt work that good if you dont know the exact wording of topics!!