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I will remake my post.....
Sjeep dont want his programm to be hacked.
It wont be hack cause the source is not available.
Too many beer here, sorry.
Sjeep is a leech, it was never his program,
Originally Posted by slicer74
he was one of many open source people, sjeep is the one who stabbed the others in the back
by commercializing several open source efforts as HDLoader.
if that's true then how come noone came with something similar to hdloader besides sjeep? (besides free hd project which seems to be abandoned btw)
SCPH-39004 (V7) PAL | Ripper 3.1 (MI clone) | NA | 40GB 7200 rpm, 2 MB, Samsung | dev.1 ulELF
| HDL 0.8b
Xbox 360 | 3x Sega Saturn Model 2 | Nintendo64 | Sega Dreamcast
Those folks who sell HDLoader on disc are now selling a HD Loader v3.8b , my guess is its HDLv0.8b ??
SCPH-30001 [V4] - unmodded (2)
SCPH-30001-R [V5] DMS4 Pro SE
SCPH-50001-N [V9] CC 2.0 SLE
SCPH-79001 [V16] Silver - unmodded
I think you are wrong. Though I wasn't involved in any way myself, I have gathered from many sources that Sjeep really did write the main parts of HDLoader himself, and the only claim I have seen by anyone else for any HDL-specific part of the design relates to the GUI design only.
Originally Posted by barf
It is true that HDL, like any other PS2 project with homebrew origins, has used several libs and embedded IRXs developed by others, but that is not a problem, since most PS2 stuff is released under AFL (Academic Free License). This means that all programmers are allowed to use those libs and modules for commercial projects of their own, as long as they don't claim copyright to those parts, but only to the parts they created themselves. There is also no requirement that the project-specific sources be released, as you seem to believe. That is the main difference between AFL and GPL (which would require the entire project to become open source).
Best regards: dlanor
Last edited by dlanor; 12-14-2006 at 08:42 PM.
Most the other developers that helped build the different parts disagreed with his use of the tool.
Originally Posted by kidman64
Well if i help a guy built an app i would be screaming on diffrent website and diffrent stuff what kind of guys are those that built hdloader and then let it
Originally Posted by barf
go into someone else hand without letting anyone knowing that they contributed to the project themselves
Still why did Sjeep come strong and made many other tools forgive me
he even contributed to pcsx2 project and after that he comes and
make an enhancment to hdloader and giving it a new name > toxic OS /toxicloader
so how is that possible did those guys come to help him again
Well you are definitely on topic, do you see that he only harvest by putting already existing stuff together?
Most other people that do such stuff give back, apart from Sjeep and Bill Gates.
dlanor: weren't a bunch of the initial (now ancient) commits of HDD and some other low level drivers done in PS2SDK by SJeep, before all this crud came up? (I know I used to see "SJeep" in alot of headers a long while back)
I personally wasn't around in the beginning, and don't really like to take sides in this stuff since I wasn't, but I can say with certainty that all the commercial products to come from that guy have been HIGHLY under-supported (else why would this thread, HDA and TOXIC have takers?).
Guys like Sjeep and companies like Divineo, who manufactured and distributed HDLoader (and the long line of DMS modchips) don't give two shits about "the scene." They are in it strictly to make a quick buck. That is why their products are, as you said, "HIGHLY undersupported" and why he would never release any source code.