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APPLIST.DAT Required –
Hehehe.. Ya i could only access __boot (where dms3 apps are installed) and __common (where savegame folders from sony's hd browser are).
I tried __mbr and __system and i couldnt access it.. but when i tried __sysconf i saw some more directories inside but i couldnt access them :P
Oh cool.. i didnt know i could bind stuff like that
Nemesis when you have time can you attach your APPLIST.DAT here please? (Copying and pasting didnt work here.. blackscreen)
See you all in the next episode of "Discovering PS2 partitons & Installing DMS3 Apps without cd's" :P
Last edited by Kormann; 07-19-2004 at 11:41 PM.
Well here are some of my initial findings whilst screwing around with Exec.
First off, Dev.2 seems to be VERY picky with APPLIST.DAT and APPLIST.BAK the first test I tried was installing Ps2Newz Memory Card Killer. Made the correct directory, made the uninstall.cnf inside that folder. and then proceeded to edit the APPLIST.DAT. I just copied from the beginning of what Naplink said to the end, and then replaced it with Ps2Newz, the file path, description etc. Re uploaded both .DAT and .BAK and booted into Dev.2 It seemed like it was going to work and then it completely crashed on me, just would not work at all. So I guess when it has an error in the .DAT it falls back to .BAK and would normally load, however I had edited .BAK also, so I think that was the reason for the crash, So I fired up Exec again, and deleted everything in _BOOT. And reinstalled Dev.2. It worked fine once again.
So the next time instead of creating a fresh part of APPLIST.DAT I edited where PGEN was supposed to be, basically exactly the same way it was. changed path, made directory, uploaded the elf. made the uninstall config file. After all that finished, I booted into Dev.2 and all I see on the list is HDD Format, HDD Dump, and Naplink, No Memory Card Killer in sight. But at least it didn't crash this time.
At this point I'm stuck. The only way it may be possible to have the apps installed without using a CD is to have someone who already has an APPLIST.DAT to your liking and just upload it and make the correct file paths etc.
Perhaps I'll look more into testing this tomorrow.
Another quick little note, I tried a quick little test, I installed everything that was on my Dev.2 Disc, Format, Dump, Pgen, and Naplink. I went ahead and deleted Naplink, and then booted Exec, and grabbed the APPLIST.DAT and sure enough it was exactly the same as when I had originally put it on there, it might be a bug or might not be. I could have swore that when I looked at my other APPLIST Pgen was gone from the list and from the APPLIST.DAT.
So maybe APPLIST.DAT might not control what programs are installed, it might just point to what programs were actually on the CD you burned. But then that wouldn't really explain why if you edit it, that Dev.2 crashes, I don't know, but I do know that at this point I'm tired, but I'll check more into this tomorrow, or should I say today.
Last edited by NemesisM66; 07-20-2004 at 02:23 AM.
i have similar experiences as far as APPLIST.DAT & .BAK being so picky. i picked up an APPLIST.DAT from DMS forums, edited it to just one program, uploaded it and it just booted into black screen. at one time, i had to reflash my chip since it would boot into black screen, i also had to clean up the __boot directory and reinstall DMS HDD Explorer for it to work again, using execFTP of course...
i hope we could find out where the ELF file for the DMS HDD Explorer... could it be on the chip? then why would we need to install it in the first place? i'll domore research tomorrow...
you don't have to be banned from "that site". our favorite admin of "that site" is naive and thinks that just by banning an ip, he can "PERM BAN!!!!!@#@#@#@#@ OMG OMG LOL ROFL OMG OMG WTF OMG" people from his website.
simply bounce your connection through a public proxy server. there is a good list here: http://www.publicproxyservers.com/index.html
Enter it into your browser/firewall and browse his website as much as you want.
*ps* sorry for the hijack
making up for my hijack... :P the hdd explorer program is on the hard drive **somewhere***. it's called from the chip. i don't think there would be much room left on the flash rom of the dms3 to locate HD explorer. (it's only 64KB's)
Originally Posted by blisstik
it may not be in "elf" format as such. it might be a bullshitted piece of code which the chip "unbullshits" and runs it.
Nice that you guys didnt give up too
Just a note for you.. before messing with APPLIST.DAT and .BAK make a backup of it. And when you get blackscreen just use execftp once again and copy over your backup So you dont need to install Hdd xplorer once again :P
ahh, i did make a backup of my APPLIST.DAT/.BAK ... so when i get the black screen, i re-upload those files but most of the time, it doesn't work, i keep getting a black screen from a reset and a power off. dev1 won't even come up, so i gotta do 5x reset fallback flash trick to reinstall the Flash 2.3b3 and DMS HDD Explorer...
i think there's a file somewhere where the *REAL* menu list exists, so when DMS HDD Exporer starts, it somewhat appends it to the __boot partition so it can execute it. it seems like everytime you do ANYTHING to the APPLIST.DAT/.BAK, it just goes into black screen, even when its an original copy from someone else who has everything installed... just a thought...
and HyPerSoNiC's theory of the code being encrypted COULD also be true.
I once again tried to put Ps2Newz Memory Card Killer on there, I left the spacing exactly the same as the entry for PGEN. Booted up and instead of seeing on 2 things, I see PGEN in the file listings. Try to run it but I get a Red Screen. So I manually made the exact same folder that PGEN was in, with an uninstall script and I put Ps2Links elf in there but renamed it to Pgen. So when I try to uninstall it again, it tells me that the directory doesn't exist on the HDD Expolorer. So I think the real file is hidden somewhere. We'll figure this out once the HDD becomes more flexible
yeah im starting to think that too nemesis...
question: prior to ur APPLIST experiment, did you install PGEN using the CD-Rom? then you simply tried to replace the PGEN.ELF file with a DIFF ELF by RENAMING it?
that sounds like it should work since you are not editing the APPLIST.DAT and whatever hidden data remains unchanged EXCEPT for the ELF executable...