XBOX GAMES ON PS2 VIA FREEMCBOOT AND OPL0.8

[CARTHAGIAN]

IS IT POSSIBLE TO PLAY XBOX GAMES ON PS2 SLIM USING FREEMCBOOT AND OPL 0.8 ( backup ...iso games )
THANKS

[thx1138]

no

[CARTHAGIAN]

thanks for the reply
i have some others questions
can we return to games list on opl 0.8 directly when we play a game to change it to another game without restaring opl
can we listen to music ..using sms and let it playing and open a game so play game and listen to music
thank you very much

[dlanor]

thanks for the reply
i have some others questions
can we return to games list on opl 0.8 directly when we play a game to change it to another game without restaring opl
can we listen to music ..using sms and let it playing and open a game so play game and listen to music
thank you very much

No. Neither of those things are possible as it would require the PS2 to have a multitasking operating system as well as tons of RAM.
Instead it has no OS at all but merely a bios instead, without any real multitasking ability, and the largest RAM area is only 32 MB.

So no. The PS2 will never be able to do all the things that a real computer can do, all at the same time.
Instead we have to accept doing one thing at a time, and to end each program by launching another, as they can't run in parallel.

The only exceptions are a few background things that can run on the IOP CPU instead of the EE CPU, but those always have extremely limited resources since the IOP CPU has no access to the main RAM bank. Having only 2 MB of RAM, shared with all bios device drivers too, is a serious restriction...

Best regards: dlanor

[CARTHAGIAN]

thanks ..so clear answers

[TnA]

I have to correct dlanor on one sentence/answer.

Yes, you can jump back to OPL directly 'out of a game'.
There is an IGR/InGameReset-Feature in OPL implemented.

1. Use a newer version/rev./BETA, because directly jumping back to OPL seems to be bugged or what,...
2. Link to OPL as IGR-ELF and when you press the IGR-Reset-Combo in-game, it will start this ELF/OPL again.

[dlanor]

I have to correct dlanor on one sentence/answer.

Yes, you can jump back to OPL directly 'out of a game'.
There is an IGR/InGameReset-Feature in OPL implemented.

Yes, there is a feature by that name, but you are still formally incorrect.

It's not really possible to 'jump back' to OPL directly 'out of a game', since that would require OPL to still be resident when you do that.
But that is not the case as keeping it resident would make it impossible for many games to work at all.

Remember that what CARTHAGIAN asked was if he could return to OPL's game list WITHOUT restarting OPL. And that is strictly impossible.

What is possible and has been implemented for OPL's IGR is that the IGR routine, called at detection of the IGR button combo, first terminates the currently running game program and then relaunches OPL or another elf file 'from scratch'. The effect appears similar to a 'jump back', except that it takes more time to complete.

1. Use a newer version/rev./BETA, because directly jumping back to OPL seems to be bugged or what,...

Beta variations is one aspect of the problem, but there is also a wide variation in how different games interact with any IGR attempts.

With some games it is very common for a crash to occur after successfully relaunching OPL, while some games crash as soon as you press the IGR combo, and a few can't even run at all with the IGR feature enabled. (But fortunately most games have no problems of this kind.)

2. Link to OPL as IGR-ELF and when you press the IGR-Reset-Combo in-game, it will start this ELF/OPL again.

I know that many people like to do this, but for me this has always had a bad effect on crash frequency.
I get better results if I let IGR launch a special instance of uLE, which I have configured to launch OPL automatically.
The end result is the same, as OPL is restarted without any extra user actions, but it lowers crash frequency (at cost of slightly slower relaunch).

Best regards: dlanor

[TnA]

Yes, there is a feature by that name, but you are still formally incorrect.

It's not really possible to 'jump back' to OPL directly 'out of a game', since that would require OPL to still be resident when you do that.
But that is not the case as keeping it resident would make it impossible for many games to work at all.

Remember that what CARTHAGIAN asked was if he could return to OPL's game list WITHOUT restarting OPL. And that is strictly impossible.

Oh, come on!
Now you're putting his words onto a gold-scale.
You can't be sure that he meant it that way. He didn't even used point and comma.

He also could have meant 'without restarting PS2 and then starting OPL' (for example getting out of the couch, to press the reset-button), but maybe he was somewhat to lazy to put these few words into hi sentence, or simply assumed that everyone get it right straight-away.

What is possible and has been implemented for OPL's IGR is that the IGR routine, called at detection of the IGR button combo, first terminates the currently running game program and then relaunches OPL or another elf file 'from scratch'. The effect appears similar to a 'jump back', except that it takes more time to complete.

o.k., I agree on that.
OPL can't stay resident and must be 'restarted' (technically), but still the feeling is exactly the same if you link-back to OPL as IGR-ELF.

Beta variations is one aspect of the problem, but there is also a wide variation in how different games interact with any IGR attempts.

With some games it is very common for a crash to occur after successfully relaunching OPL, while some games crash as soon as you press the IGR combo, and a few can't even run at all with the IGR feature enabled. (But fortunately most games have no problems of this kind.)

I know that many people like to do this, but for me this has always had a bad effect on crash frequency.
I get better results if I let IGR launch a special instance of uLE, which I have configured to launch OPL automatically.
The end result is the same, as OPL is restarted without any extra user actions, but it lowers crash frequency (at cost of slightly slower relaunch).

Best regards: dlanor

I still/yet have to see a single crash related to IGR (on my setup/different PS2s FAT and Slim), since the newer version/structure of the Beta-REVs is implemented!

[dlanor]

I still/yet have to see a single crash related to IGR (on my setup/different PS2s FAT and Slim), since the newer version/structure of the Beta-REVs is implemented!

The current implementation is very good, I certainly agree on that, but crashes can still happen as I have seen on a number of occasions.
Those tendencies are of course highly dependent on the game engines, and thus also dependent on what the game is doing as you press the IGR buttons.

Best regards: dlanor

[TnA]

The current implementation is very good, I certainly agree on that, but crashes can still happen as I have seen on a number of occasions.
Those tendencies are of course highly dependent on the game engines, and thus also dependent on what the game is doing as you press the IGR buttons.

Best regards: dlanor

Yepp, that's all true.
I just have to say: When a crash happened here, it was still 'in-game' before ELF-Load&Exec was even involved (mostly 'siting' on a black-screen, directly after IGR-Combo) and not after I already reached/saw the game-list.
I just can't even remember in-game-crashes anymore. Allmost all my games are compatible with IGR it seems.

But with your method, you can atleast be sure that it launches OPL in a clean environment again.

i'm sorry but.....wtf???!?!

seriously?

lol
I'm feeling with ya, dang.