psxlauncher.elf on the dreaded scph 90004 bios v230

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Originally Posted by Deadhead

Thanks for the info, i'll try them out sometime.
Now im trying out my tv tuner card to get the ps2 to work on my screen hooked up to my pc, i dont really like the quality of it so im tinkering with the settings a little bit

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No matter what you do to the settings, any TV tuner solution is always going to result in a rotten picture quality, even when compared to the thoroughly bad quality normally achieved with the standard composite video cable that normallly comes with each PS2, for connection to the composite video input of a TV. (That same bad quality also applies to S-Video cables.)

While a TV may have worse picture quality than your computer monitor does when used by that computer, the modulation/demodulation required to use a TV tuner for your PS2 signals is going to be far far worse anyway.

The best available PS2 picture quality results from using RGB/SCART/Component outputs, which in turn requires buying some new PS2-specific cable, as the regular one supplied with every PS2 only offers composite video (==garbage quality). Using such a new cable with a normal TV (assuming it has such connectors, like all new sets should) will give far better picture quality than you can ever achieve using TV-tuner or any composite TV-in/VIVO adaptors for a computer.

Best regards: dlanor

Thanks for the info.
I think i could better buy a new tv, maybe a full hd one so i can finally buy a ps3 and have good quality.
Buying a ps3 now would be a waste of money on a 15 inch crt tv imo.
And i could also enjoy ps2 games on that tv.

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Originally Posted by Deadhead

Thanks for the info.
I think i could better buy a new tv, maybe a full hd one so i can finally buy a ps3 and have good quality.
Buying a ps3 now would be a waste of money on a 15 inch crt tv imo.
And i could also enjoy ps2 games on that tv.

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Just be aware that any new PS3 console you buy now will be unable to run any PS2 games. So stick with your PS2 console for those games.

Best regards: dlanor

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Originally Posted by Northbear

If you have an original cheat device for PS1 (Xploder/xplorer cd 9000 or Gamebuster cd) I could give you one or two little apps which can find cheat codes which change the videomode for PS1 games.

If you know the "Joker" codes for the game you can make the videomode switchable.


Best regards
Northbear

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Yes I know some basics of action replay and codes.
I've converted some for FF8 from NTSC for my PAL version.
Anyway I don't think it's gonna change something.
In Xploder 9000 options there is one that change the display between PAL & NTSC (only for Xploder menu of course) but if I change it the display is always in PAL mode XD
I also know the patchers you posted.
But my problem is that I want to play a NTSC games on a PAL machine.... so there is nothing to change..... Even if using AR codes or patcher I'm able to play a PAL games in NTSC it doesn't solve my problem. However, if it's not possible to play a PAL in NTSC maybe it's not possible to play an NTSC game in its original video output on this PS2 model.... this is what I think.

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Originally Posted by Ichisuke

Yes I know some basics of action replay and codes.
I've converted some for FF8 from NTSC for my PAL version.
Anyway I don't think it's gonna change something.
In Xploder 9000 options there is one that change the display between PAL & NTSC (only for Xploder menu of course) but if I change it the display is always in PAL mode XD
I also know the patchers you posted.
But my problem is that I want to play a NTSC games on a PAL machine.... so there is nothing to change..... Even if using AR codes or patcher I'm able to play a PAL games in NTSC it doesn't solve my problem. However, if it's not possible to play a PAL in NTSC maybe it's not possible to play an NTSC game in its original video output on this PS2 model.... this is what I think.

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Hmmm. I wonder what exactly is stopping you from just playing the NTSC game as-is ?
Is it a genuine NTSC vs PAL sync incompatibility, or is it just the loss of colour due to composite cable ?

The large majority of modern TV sets have no problem at all with NTSC sync rates, since modern sets are normally designed for worldwide sales, with only some few localized features (mainly the mains power voltage system), but otherwise using the same circuit boards throughout. I have two slightly old CRT TVs and one newer LCD TV, and they all work fine with NTSC games, both with my PS2 and my PS1 consoles, without any video mode patching at all.

But in order for that to work well it is necessary to connect the console to the TV using a video cable that can supply full colour for both PAL and NTSC signals, and this means using either SCART/RGB or Component cables, but never S-Video or Composite cables (the latter is what every console is supplied with by Sony).

So if your console shows NTSC games as a steady picture but in black-and-white only, then all you need do to fix that is to replace your cable. And if you go for Component cable then you will also need to change a setting in the System Configuration menu to enable the component outputs, before you replace the cable. But that is all. From that moment on every NTSC game should display perfectly, like they do for me.

Finally, it is possible that you do have a very old TV that really is incapable of using NTSC sync rates, in which case your best solution is to upgrade to something newer.

Edit: Perhaps I misunderstood your problem, since you kept talking about it as a problem of NTSC vs PAL. Possibly your real problem is that of launching an out-of-region disc at all, but then you really need to describe your problem better. Whereas the TV system may be considered to be split into just two regions, the PS1/PS2 game release regions is a completely different issue, with more than just two regions. For this kind of problem the best solution is a traditional modchip, though some softmod methods may also work.

Best regards: dlanor

@dlanor

Ichisuke is the second person which reports that an import NTSC game is running in PAL mode on an PAL console.
For me it looks like a strange behaviour because the videomode is "hardcoded" into the game so even on the PS2 it should run @ 60 Hz NTSC on an PAL console.

I have no way to test it on my PS2. First one has no working lens and the second won't read any cd-media. I hope to get another full working PS2 for testing and gaming.


Best regards
Northbear

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Originally Posted by Northbear

@dlanor
Ichisuke is the second person which reports that an import NTSC game is running in PAL mode on an PAL console.

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But I consider his report on that here to be much too vague for me to take it as conclusive evidence. I think he is simply mistaken... Unless he has some modchip set for automatic video mode patching. And if that were the case he shouldn't be reporting any problem at all.

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For me it looks like a strange behaviour because the videomode is "hardcoded" into the game so even on the PS2 it should run @ 60 Hz NTSC on an PAL console.

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Exactly! So he must be mistaken somehow.

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I have no way to test it on my PS2. First one has no working lens and the second won't read any cd-media. I hope to get another full working PS2 for testing and gaming.

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I we are talking about just any console, then that has been tested thousands of times already, counting only my own PS2 usage. All my consoles have been PAL models and most of the games I prefer to play are NTSC releases, so I do this all the time.

All NTSC games booted on a PAL console have always used NTSC video, except for special cases where some special mode-patching software (or modchip) is used to launch a game.

The only thing I'm vague about myself on this matter is how the very latest models may differ from earlier ones, since the latest I have myself is a v15 SCPH-77004.

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Come to think of it, I've mostly played the PS1 games on my PS1 console, so I haven't really tested PS1 booting on the PS2 for a long time now. Perhaps the enhancement settings of the PS1 driver on the PS2 could affect the video mode too...? (better try it out)

Best regards: dlanor

Ok guys I made some photos
http://img197.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=07092009301.jpg
Do you see the black bar at the bottom and the small one at the right side?
The screen is out of position and the actual resolution is PAL not NTSC but the games are NTSC!
The tv is fully compatible with NTSC signal, the console is in RGB but also in composite nothing change(it's a PAL signal anyway).
The game(in this case FF9 and DW7) are ORIGINAL and are running on a PAL slim 90000 PS2 console. They are also slow down a lot. FF9 is even slower than the real horrible PAL version, the fmvs have also choppy audio since the game is running in PAL mode.
I made them running with a "hot swap on the fly" after loading a PAL game, I swap the game as soon the PS logo appear, and I think this is the problem since the logo appear and have already "loaded" the video mode.
If I try a swap in the browser(old trick where you see the black disc icon and swap the game) the import game won't start and I have to insert the PAL game back to make appear the PS logo, so it is like I've made the "hot swap on the fly".
The console is not modded. Even with breaker pro and tried changing video mode nothing change. If psxlauncher work on early slim model I think Sony really made some change on the 90000 models since with psxlauncher I cannot even boot an import game.
Hope I made this clear once and for all XD

i suggest you try the cheatcode method in combination with joker codes so you can change the video mode in game with a button click.

I used this method back then with Silent Hill NTSC and Final Fantasy 6 PAL it works on the PSX so i guess (just guess because can't check at the moment) it works also on PS2. Cheatdevice XPLODER CD 9000 works on the PS2 !

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Originally Posted by Northbear

i suggest you try the cheatcode method in combination with joker codes so you can change the video mode in game with a button click.

I used this method back then with Silent Hill NTSC and Final Fantasy 6 PAL it works on the PSX so i guess (just guess because can't check at the moment) it works also on PS2. Cheatdevice XPLODER CD 9000 works on the PS2 !

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Yes but.... where do I find a code to play an NTSC game.... in NTSC?!? XD