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I bet this is really going to piss anon off
Graf is a REAL MAN, I will donate to Alex because I know he's willing to fight for his rights.
so what they gonna do? ddos some of sony's sites for 1 day like last time?that was just laughable.
Originally Posted by rot
That's not bad, lol!
Originally Posted by Deeked
Especially if we feed the trout some yummy keys
No, but many judges tend to side with them, since they are legal contract.
Originally Posted by E.coli
And the U.K. have something called the Computer Programs Directive....
Article 6 of the 1991 EU Computer Programs Directive prohibits reverse engineering for the purposes of creating a competing product,(His Linux could be seen as a competing product to XMB
) and also prohibits the public release of information obtained through reverse engineering of software.(He already ****ed up here
I am simply outraged and I will never buy another Sony product ever again. Graf has done nothing but try to restore what you have taken from us illegally in the first place. Then you go and try to have the Linux lawsuit against you thrown out of court as it "wasn't our call to remove Linux" is utter trash. I will never buy another Sony system and I am now a 100% pirate. I have added around 250gb of games I intended to buy to my newsleecher qeue and I don't intend to buy shit from them anymore. I wish we had a Sony store to boycott within 100 miles as I would go but alas the closest one is 189 miles away as I checked. How can they justify this? I am so pissed and I am going to donate to graf as he deserves it to bad I can;t get my cash from geohot who was supposed to fight the good fight but simply pussed out.
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They raided him for a second time!?!? That is well and truly f@#ked up! . They're treating this guy like he's a drug dealer or a kiddy fiddler. I feel really bad for the guy. I'm shocked that this behavior is even being allowed in a European country .
That's a horrible interpretation of that directive
Originally Posted by XxRaVeNxX
Whereas the parts of the program which provide for such interconnection and interaction between elements of software and hardware are generally known as 'interfaces`;
Whereas this functional interconnection and interaction is generally known as 'interoperability`; whereas such interoperability can be defined as the ability to exchange information and mutually to use the information which has been exchanged
Whereas, for the avoidance of doubt, it has to be made clear that only the expression of a computer program is protected and that ideas and principles which underlie any element of a program, including those which underlie its interfaces, are not protected by copyright under this Directive
Whereas, in accordance with this principle of copyright, to the extent that logic, algorithms and programming languages comprise ideas and principles, those ideas and principles are not protected under this Directive;
Whereas the provisions of this Directive are without prejudice to the application of the competition rules under Articles 85 and 86 of the Treaty if a dominant supplier refuses to make information available which is necessary for interoperability as defined in this Directive;
Article 5 Exceptions to the restricted acts
1. In the absence of specific contractual provisions, the acts referred to in Article 4 (a) and (b) shall not require authorization by the rightholder where they are necessary for the use of the computer program by the lawful acquirer in accordance with its intended purpose, including for error correction.
2. The making of a back-up copy by a person having a right to use the computer program may not be prevented by contract insofar as it is necessary for that use.
3. The person having a right to use a copy of a computer program shall be entitled, without the authorization of the rightholder, to observe, study or test the functioning of the program in order to determine the ideas and principles which underlie any element of the program if he does so while performing any of the acts of loading, displaying, running, transmitting or storing the program which he is entitled to do.
Graf's lawyers will eat this up
Article 6 Decompilation
1. The authorization of the rightholder shall not be required where reproduction of the code and translation of its form within the meaning of Article 4 (a) and (b) are indispensable to obtain the information necessary to achieve the interoperability of an independently created computer program with other programs, provided that the following conditions are met:
(a) these acts are performed by the licensee or by another person having a right to use a copy of a program, or on their behalf by a person authorized to to so;
(b) the information necessary to achieve interoperability has not previously been readily available to the persons referred to in subparagraph (a); and (c) these acts are confined to the parts of the original program which are necessary to achieve interoperability.
2. The provisions of paragraph 1 shall not permit the information obtained through its application:
(a) to be used for goals other than to achieve the interoperability of the independently created computer program;
(b) to be given to others, except when necessary for the interoperability of the independently created computer program;
or (c) to be used for the development, production or marketing of a computer program substantially similar in its expression, or for any other act which infringes copyright
the ONLY thing graf cannot do is modify the GAMEOS and distribute it as his own. There are specific protections to ensure interoperability with Linux. In addition interoperability with Linux is CONTINGENT on releasing his work (i.e. the concept of Open Source).
No, not case closed. The EUCD is the equivalent of the DMCA - therefore, it can go to hell - this is what the anti-software patent movement has long been warning about - the kinds of abuses we now see happening.
Originally Posted by XxRaVeNxX
Let me guess - if they passed a law that prevented you to breathe, would you accept that unquestionably too and just say 'Case closed - you're a criminal if you're interested in self-preservation'?
I mean, dude, laws are not holy unto themselves - some laws are ILLEGITIMATE - some laws trample on other laws - on certain intrinsic rights. You think judges are some kind of priest class and that the law is some kind of Holy Bible that you have to uphold no matter what? Every dictator puts the stuff they want to do into Law first - Law is the 'heavy stick' that gets used to beat people over the head with - got nothing to do with morals and just causes.
The EUCD and the DMCA are just ways to put a stranglehold on anyone developing any type of software - so lawyers and judges can have a field day incriminating you on frivolous charges because 'you were engaging in copyright infringement/intellectual copyright infringement'.
I mean, get real here - the whole thing is a farce - the whole thing is a disgrace. Computing and software programming should NOT be restricted by these kinds of bullshit laws. It's just that simple.
If cartels and price-fixing are illegal - SO SHOULD VENDOR LOCK-IN - because it's the same thing. Now, that, my friend, is Case Closed.