Sony's Official Statement Regarding PS3 Circumvention Devices and Pirated Software!

[Stealth1]

Where do you get console bans? Nothing states that. It appears to be banning of MAC addresses but who really knows for sure at this point. Did I miss something from the OP?

Your Console ID is sent to the auth server on bootup or whenever you try to login to PSN. Obviously its your personal identifier for that machine.

Your mac address never leaves your local segment. There is no point requesting that bit of info from your console (thats even if they can) and ban that way when they already get the console id...

[AlexDC22]

It may be YOUR console, but its THEIR PSN Service your using.

There really is no arguement to say them blocking PSN access is wrong in anyway. Thats all they are saying in their statement, if your using a modified PS3, you cant use their PSN Service anymore.

Some times i think my brain needs unpacking lol
thanks for the explanation.
I thought they where saying that i agreed not to hack my ps3 lol, i dont care about pns, tho with mortal kombat coming out tho, it saddens me that i wont get the dlc for the games, which will be extra characters

but oh well, i ratter have my ps3 hacked

[Noxside]

Meh, i dont give a shit about PSN, if i want PSN i just go get a used ps3 slim console for dirt cheap.

We kinda banned our selfs in the end.

[Bluloa]

To avoid this, consumers must immediately cease use and remove all circumvention devices and delete all unauthorized or pirated software from their PlayStation 3 systems.

Sounds like to me they are calling our bluff, almost trying their hardest to get us to upgrade to OFW 3.56.

Thats very nice of them, unlike them infact why are they doing this, could it be because they know they cant stop those who arent stupid enough to play games that arent released yet or those who hack games like MW2?

As it stands,

I have modded my PS3, NOT ILLEGAL.

I have backed up my games, NOT ILLEGAL.

Im using the PSN network, against their rules ONLY WHEN I BREAK THEIR T&C`s, however if I decided to upgrade to OFW I am agreeing to their T&C`s again so how can the ban me as I wont have broken any laws and they are preventing me using the device I purchased with PSN access.

It would then be them who are Breaking the law and selling goods which do not meet the description of sale. A nice small claims court order me thinks!

I think this is one bluff by Sony to try and get us all back on OFW.

Only people who will be banned IMO are those stupid enough to play games early and hacking to cheat.

[dagrimmreepa]

I can't tell you how insanely happy it makes me reading that statement. I have 2 systems, one K3.55 that I use to backup my legal games and run homebrew and one ofw 3.56 that I use for PSN and the like... and I gotta tell you, I am tired of cheaters taking advantage of the scene to **** with games like CoD, MW2, WaW and CoD4 are virtually unplayable cos of hacked lobbies.

I gave up my right to go on PSN the moment I installed K, that's why I bought a second machine. For anyone upset cos they wanna have their cake and eat it too, remember the 2 most important quotes in history:

1. The Cake is a Lie
2. There is No Spoon

So drink water, mutha****as!

[L0YD]

Sounds like to me they are calling our bluff, almost trying their hardest to get us to upgrade to OFW 3.56.

Thats very nice of them, unlike them infact why are they doing this, could it be because they know they cant stop those who arent stupid enough to play games that arent released yet or those who hack games like MW2?

As it stands,

I have modded my PS3, NOT ILLEGAL.

I have backed up my games, NOT ILLEGAL.

Im using the PSN network, against their rules ONLY WHEN I BREAK THEIR T&C`s, however if I decided to upgrade to OFW I am agreeing to their T&C`s again so how can the ban me as I wont have broken any laws and they are preventing me using the device I purchased with PSN access.

It would then be them who are Breaking the law and selling goods which do not meet the description of sale. A nice small claims court order me thinks!

I think this is one bluff by Sony to try and get us all back on OFW.

Only people who will be banned IMO are those stupid enough to play games early and hacking to cheat.

nah I believe they start banning

[mogwaimon]

I'm sorry but this has to be the dumbest post in this topic. Resetting your router will not do anything. They will ban your PS3 MAC address and possibly your console's PSID. TBH I'm hoping they ban accounts to stop the talk about owning a second console. They are doing things differently than Microsoft. I don't remember MS giving people a second chance at being legit to avoid a ban.

Sony just earmed alot of respect from me giving people a second chance to those who want it. This will put a dent into the scene and believe me I'm not the one to start crap about the scene dying, but this is a good start.

Let"s step into reality for a second, there hasn't been much on homebrew for awhile, Linux does not count as it isn't something everyone cares for. Playing backups seems to be popular and what Sony doesn't want you to do. It doesn't matter if you own the game or anything. The PS3 does not have that full install feature like the xbox has. Making it do things it's not officially programmed to do so is illegal and Sony has the right to anything to our consoles.

The reason why they are giving you a second chance is possibly an account ban and a console deactivation. I believe that's what the rootkit is for. The rootkit is not there to brick your ps3 it's there to deactivate the console once Sony pulls the trigger.

Deactivating means bye bye dlc. They have as much right to do it as we have to modify the ps3.

I don't get your last sentence, first you say modifying our system is illegal because we make it do things it's not officially programmed to do, then to illustrate your point about the rootkit deactivating our systems, you then say they have the same rights to do it as we do to mod our system? So what do you mean, they're in the wrong by doing this or what?

Well, in any case, this is still a valid point. I'd recommend backing up your act.dats and staying off of PSN with ****PSN until this all blows over if you want to keep your DLC activations, everyone. Then again, if you all don't take those precautions, it may give the devs a non-piracy related excuse to get cracking on those NPDRM keys, so either way is good.

[FalconSS]

Yeah, Yeah, cool story, Sony.
How about you bring down the hammer instead of repeating what the **** ever is in your EULA? No need for all that whinning.

[Billythefish]

People should have expected this. Whoever honestly believed Sony would not protect their legitimate only customers were extremely narrow minded. They can control PSN but they have no say in what I do with my console. I'm fine with what they are doing. Anyone that says "**** Sony" needs to realize that they did not tell you to hack your device, nor did they tell you to get on THEIR networks. When you hack your system and get on PSN you accept the consequences.

couldnt have said it better myself tbh im just surprised it took them so long

[xPreatorianx]

No way, MS voids your warranty if you are banned. As a matter of fact, this is how people were checking if they were flagged to be banned. The would go on xbox.com and fill out a form for xbox 360 repair and if they got a error that they could not complete the request they knew they had been detected using the hacked dvd drive firmware.

Still at least MS offers free repairs when you are in warranty. It's easy as hell to stay unbanned on Xbox live. Don't download illegal software and play it on live before street date. Wait for street date and the ABGX rip.

But the point is MS offers free repairs as long as you are in warranty. Sony doesn't. You could have a warranty but you still have to pay for repairs.