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"part of a hacker conspiracy" ??? They sure are full of themselves, its like big brother is afraid little brother is spying on him. Sony's attitude has only one outcome, piracy! You can only treat people like pirates and hackers before the actually become pirates and hackers. Fear the "hacker conspiracy" and you will eventually create one by acting like a bunch of nut-bags.
uhh.. what does the wacky Green Peace have to do with Nintendo and Microsofts Public Relations in regards to hackers?
Originally Posted by Player1
Try not to take it out of context. I didn't say they were a "holy" corporation, I just said that they know how to handle their system being hacked much more maturely and professionally than Sony. When wii got hacked, I didn't hear anything about them going after all the hackers and trying to sue everyone. Because they understand the concept that you don't really want to be suing your fans and customers because you will lose A LOT of support and money you could of collected in the long run because people WILL go elsewhere.
Originally Posted by Player1
Now if your trying to say that the Wii isn't green, I gotcha their. I have read about how with "wiiconnect24" always on you uses a ridiculous amount of power. I get that. I don't keep mine on anyway. But yea I get what your saying, none of them are perfect, they all have a bad rep in some area. But some do better at public relations than sony.
As far as I know, my ps3 has never had an undetected error.
If we don't own our PS3s does that mean that Sony are renting them out to us? And if so, can they even charge us for repairs if their equipment is faulty?
Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just thinking about something different altogether... Sky and Virgin Media boxes. You buy a sky box and if it is faulty... you have to pay off your own back. Virgin Media... they just replace the box for free (in most cases). So if we are buying our PS3 and it breaks fair play.... we pay for repairs. But if we are buying and it's not even ours (As Sony says)... then if a repair is needed... we shouldn't have to pay.
Is my logic wrong?
This is just classic - from the same company that was previously touting the ability to use an 'other' OS on the PS3 as a way to illustrate just how 'open' the PS3 was. Classic PR 180-degree turn from your original position - the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
There is a transcript from a February 9th hearing in the Sony class action attached as an exhibit to the plaintiffs’ letter to the judge in the case, and I think you’ll be amazed. Would you like to know what SCEA’s lawyers think of customers who use Linux? We get to find out, because the hearing begins with SCEA asking the judge for access to the plaintiffs’ hard drives. Why would you want that, the judge asks? These are not defendants accused of anything, remember. Sony is the one in the hot seat, but here is the incredible answer: because, says their attorney, these plaintiffs say they used Linux, so SCEA suspects they were part of a hacking conspiracy, and they’d like to check. There’s more, and I’ll tell you all about it.
And BTW, 'Other' OS always meant 'Linux' - Sony made no bones about it really.
Logic does not enter into this. Sony is merely being a pioneer in the new 'companies are your masters, the lowly customers are pathetic slaves' frontier. It doesn't begin and end with videogame consoles either - society has been steadily converging towards this for some time, but Sony is really ramming through the message big-time now.
Originally Posted by Gazaka
In a way, piracy is actually a means of protest against this kind of extreme unethical and douchebaggery behavior - or why don't you go tell me some alternative form of protest? Because your average protest on the street sure isn't going to cut it - nobody is going to care, if they will even give you a permit to protest (lovely 'freedoms' they have in the West these days - the right to assembly being thrown out of the bloody door). Going to court? Hahaha. In case people didn't realize already, it doesn't take much to bribe a Judge - and no, it isn't just the US. Going to court as Joe or Jane Average against a big company - the Judge realizes it is a joke, Plaintiff Big Co realizes it's a joke, but they're going to have some fun with you either way - to amuse you, you see. It's totally fake, totally contrived - when courts and big cos meet , it is just business as usual - the 'Judge' is their business partner - they have more to gain by singing the praises of Global Corporatism than they have being the little protective guardian of Poor Downtrotten Customer Slave #891. Don't kid yourselves into thinking that the underdog can win in court.
Your institutions are all bankrupt - what recourse do you want to take to sort this out? There is none, other than the elephant in the room that you've all been 'trained' to dissapprove of so vocally. And you all know it.
This entire games industry is going down the shithole anyway - studios left and right are going bankrupt because publishers bail out or want to play it safe - it's pretty much a dead duck. What's going to be left is generic brown military pron shooter FPS #591 and random sandbox GTA clone #691.
One thing is for sure - if I had grown up in this generation and all that was offered to me on these consoles were games of these kind, I would have never even taken up this hobby to begin with.
Thanks that answered it perfectly ha ha.
Originally Posted by squarepusher2
I've remained very quiet through all this Sony crap but since reading the latest news, I had to just say something... anything... about it all. I think the next few months will be very interesting. If Sony win... which they probably will do... who are we to them? Nothing. Big greedy corporations and not a care in the world. Society is breaking down and it's doing so fast.
True,original ideas may be too risky move to major game corp.,they better milk already successful series making them turn into shit,hovewer not all of them not taking risks.
Originally Posted by squarepusher2
What the **** happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?!?!
Sony appears to be trying to use a presumption of guilt to justify a search.
This is a VERY dangerous precedent they are trying to set here, which will open the door for a copyright gestapo.
"You must prove you aren't a hacker or a pirate to sue us." ?!?!!
Sony needs to be bitch-slapped.
They are being bich slapped as we speak, hench the PSN store being down... People buy off their internationally all the time so they are actually losing money right now.
Originally Posted by _zaphod_