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I understand exactly what your saying, and I do agree with you that they are looking for a way to limit the damage..and maybe bans will be it...
Originally Posted by sabin1981
But in my very humble opinion if they want to limit the damage this has all caused, they should step up the development of the next console...get it into the market, and everybody will upgrade...
They gotta accept they are pretty much floggin a dead horse trying to beat this now..
I have never really fully understood what ties the console to PSN, (or the xbox) but I agree what ever it is must surely now be open to change...
Originally Posted by shagster
Perhaps because I don't understand the basics I'm being stupid, but PS3 is so wide open compared to the xbox it surely is a possibility....
The closest equivalent of the current PS3's exploits(keys, custom firmware) are JTAG Xbox360 consoles.
They're also open on a wide level. Running custom dashboards, homebrew, backups, and they can even change their console serial number.
Meaning - even if JTAG consoles get banned from Xbox Live, they just change their console internal serial number and go back online. It's not a simple procedure, but it's possible.
The basic theory is that it's also possible to do on PS3, since we basically have root access. Might be even easier to accomplish, since it's rumored to be even more open than a JTAG Xbox360.
why not an open source or homebrew psn,we already have xlink kai for playing lan games online,couldnt that program be updated to allow for games that dont support lan to work,or failing that put out custom homebrew game patches that add lan support to games without lan so that they can be used with it,and why couldnt someone with legit psn access just download all the contenet and remove the npdrm then reupload it to a homebrew or opensource psn or a server,1 with a game feature based on xlink kai or a similar program built from the ground up to support all ps3 games or lan games and games patched to enable lan support,plus i saw a homebrew app on here before that said it was a homebrew psn store i dont know what it is or does though,
i wonder if it would be possible to make it p2p so there would be no need to have everything on a central server,so people could share npdrm removed and resigned psn content and music and movie files
yes but with 360 you cant just "change the internal serial number and go back online"
you need to get the keyvault from another console ,its not like you can somehow just generate a working number you have to clone a working console ,so you need to either buy or steal a working keyvault from somewhere and they are expensive and get banned rather quickly from what i hear and like you said its a complicated process ,hopefully ps3 will have a better soultion that that
plus the 360 uses efuses so you cant downgrade fw or dashboard or whatever ,and i dont know that much about 360 but i dont think the master signing keys have been extracted like is now possible on ps3
Perhaps, but bigger budgets doesn't make for better gameplay.
Originally Posted by IllyriaIsBlue
I spend more time playing classic rom based games from the 80's and 90's then I do on the newer games. Now if only mario and donkey kong looked better in 1080p :P
That's what I thought, but I've read that apparently the PS3 does have e-fuses (from a reliable source which I can't remember..). Plus, IBM created e-fuses aswell, and they made our Cell processor, so I wouldn't rule it out entirely!
Originally Posted by themuse
That's flat out piracy. No.
Originally Posted by themuse
Didn't know that much about it. Generally, i find it very hypocritical to charge money for something like that. If you can do it yourself, it's all a matter of personal choice. If you can't do it yourself, then that should be it. Deal with it.
Originally Posted by themuse
Jailbreak USB keys would be one example. You paid for a key, so you can run backups. Most ran pirated backups. There was some homebrew too. But they also severely limited the system. Loss of PSN access, in some cases loss of Blu-Ray playback, inability to update your games properly. Not all games worked etc.
So in a way, you paid for your console, you paid for a Jailbreak and in the end you have a crippled, limited system with more features taken out than put in.
Sure, you could have used other devices like phones, calculators & stuff. But most phones needed to be modified themselves too etc.
Too much work, too much cost. And yet most people jumped on that bandwagon.
If your reason was "I saved money on games" - then you're a pirate.
If your reason was "My Blu-Ray drive will last longer" - sure it will. But you crippled your system for extending the lifespan of your drive for an unknown amount of time.
If you hack a system, it's hypocritical to ask money for it. Period.
@mistawes well i dont know who your reliable source is and i dont know that much about efuses either ,i am just going by what was said by failoverflow at the ccc
lets hope your source is wrong,but we are already downgrading ,so i would think that if they were there we would know by now,but then again even though i never had a psp or got into that scene i remember a friend having 1 and telling me something about only being able to go up and down with the fw like 3 or 5 times or something like that,so maybe ,but who knows how many times it could be set for on ps3 if they exist,i dont know how many people out there go up and down on their fw with ps3 ,i was thinking about it when the dg was first discovered so i could play my 3.55 games and go back to jb and keep going back and forth but with the hdd reformating and all it would of been a pain in the ass and the scene developed so quickly that i doubt many people tried that so maybe there is a chance we wouldnt have heard about it
@godslay ,yea cause the homebrew developers never created anything that enabled piracy,not that i give a **** about piracy im not going to go into a whole speil but you can view some of my other posts on the subject if you want to know the truth about that subject,and not like you couldnt use it to share legit content anyway there is free video content on psn