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Thread: SCEA vs. Geohot - Day #2 - More Files! - Day #3 now over, more files added!
  

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    SCEA vs. George Hotz - Day #2

    Well Day #2 (12th) is now over with tons of new court papers filed by both Sony and Mr. Hotz!

    Thanks to our new PSX-SCENE member Sangreal who was kind enough to drop us all the latest court files.

    The best reading is #04.pdf, which is 280+ pages of printouts from various forums, websites, etc.

    And Sony has not been idle either. They filed new papers showing that forum users have been cloning and mirroring the various GIT's, also noting that at one point Mr. Hotz had removed the 'root key' from his website. It is clear that Sony has been keeping an Eagle Eye on all the sites practically minute by minute!

    A strange tactic Sony is attempting to use against Mr. Hotz was to send him $1 via his paypal account, which was the same as his email address, to prove that he was taking donations, even though he never requested any donations at any time! -- Naughty SCEA!

    But, not to worry, it seems Mr. Hotz has hired a very good lawyer and his defense filings are a testament to that. They make for good reading also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E.coli View Post
    im surprised no updates have been posted anywhere.
    today was suppose to be the court date.....
    Here are all of the documents filed by Sony: http://www.thesangreal.net/gaf/sony.zip

    Here is the response from geohot's lawyer: http://www.thesangreal.net/gaf/hotz.zip
    Attached below is all the latest files, the three zips, thanks to sangreal and our own official C-S11-167G archive from our internal source, but sadly it was missing the #04.pdf (280pages), that sangreal included!

    SCEA vs. George Hotz - Day #3

    UPDATE: Just before today's (13th) hearing (day #3), Sony filed some more paperwork, trying to prove the "twitter/paypal" connection, which I have now attached here thanks to sangreal for posting them earlier for us!

    Quote Originally Posted by sangreal View Post
    Sony dumped a bunch of new screenshots today ahead of the hearing. It looks like they are going to try to use them as evidence that geohot used Twitter/Paypal in connection to his PS3 hacking: http://www.thesangreal.net/gaf/sony113.zip
    UPDATE #2: Day #3 was over fast, hearing been pushed over until tomorrow (14th)!

    Quote Originally Posted by sangreal View Post
    New date:

    YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED THAT plaintiff’s motion for temporary restraining order has been scheduled for argument on Friday, January 14, 2011, at 9:00 a.m.

    At today's hearing I guess the Judge granted Sony's motion to file under seal the exhibits that contain confidential info like the keys and how to obtain them (see new attachments)
    Attached now is the latest court files from the quick day #3 thanks again to sangreal, showing that everything been moved to Friday, and the "key exhibits" have been sealed!
    Attached Files
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    Quote Originally Posted by sangreal View Post
    Here are all of the documents filed by Sony: http://www.thesangreal.net/gaf/sony.zip

    Here is the response from geohot's lawyer: http://www.thesangreal.net/gaf/hotz.zip
    shit thanks...should update first post

    Rather, it's
    12 an attempt for Sony to send a message to any would-be individual that attempting to use any
    13 hardware it manufacturers in a way it does not deem appropriate will result in harsh legal
    14 consequences, irrespective of any legal basis or authority for such action. It is for this reason
    15 that Sony filed a motion for ex parte protective relief, complete with numerous misstatements of
    16 fact and law, and providing Mr. Hotz, who is a resident of New Jersey, with a copy of the
    17 documents mere hours before a preliminary hearing for this matter was set in this Court in
    18 California, denying Mr. Hotz’s counsel the opportunity to file a properly-drafted response.
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    Sorry to copy and paste but I posted in the wrong thread.

    Well in all honesty if sites like sankakucomplex(google it NSFW so not gonna post link.) keep twisting the story we are gonna be in trouble. I've seen sites twist everything that is said about this scene into piracy. Like everything is done for the sole purpose of piracy. This is not helping the scene at all, and is probably why sony is citing piracy like crazy in the documents. Because the droves can't think for themselves and just let bias, and opinionated news articles color their opinion on something.
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    wow, i knew this will happen. they should of just use wikileaks to leak it anonomously
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    Quote Originally Posted by haxor5354 View Post
    wow, i knew this will happen. they should of just use wikileaks to leak it anonomously
    lol are you serious? Wikileaks isn't for hacking consoles. Where do people get information like this? How do people come to this conclusion?
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    That response in opposition suggests we'll be seeing one or more motions to dismiss in the near future. We may also see a motion for change of venue and a motion to sever depending on what the other defendants do.
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    Not sure if it's been mentioned but if nothing gets settled out of court (which it won't) then more than likely, Sony's lawyers are going to make Geohot divulge the information as how he came about his method and specifics containing such information. He can try pleading the 5th (which will let him kind of take an easy way out of such information, but doesn't look good). But none the less...Once the case is over, anybody can obtain a copy of the transcript utilizing the Freedom of Information Act. (unless their is some kind of order or seal which I HIGHLY doubt will happen).

    My doubt was incorrect. A SEAL has been granted to Sony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xPreatorianx View Post
    Sorry to copy and paste but I posted in the wrong thread.

    Well in all honesty if sites like sankakucomplex(google it NSFW so not gonna post link.) keep twisting the story we are gonna be in trouble. I've seen sites twist everything that is said about this scene into piracy. Like everything is done for the sole purpose of piracy. This is not helping the scene at all, and is probably why sony is citing piracy like crazy in the documents. Because the droves can't think for themselves and just let bias, and opinionated news articles color their opinion on something.
    why the hell are you looking to sankakucomplex for SCENE news? wtf dude?
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    Sony filed some new stuff tonight: http://www.thesangreal.net/gaf/refiled.zip

    I think this was mostly just to fix the mistake they made earlier when they left the keys and other info in the document they filed. Nothing too interesting. They do complain about Geohot putting the keys back online though, as well as the mirror sites. I expect psgroove.com will take this zip file as an "exclusive" at some point too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeve View Post
    why the hell are you looking to sankakucomplex for SCENE news? wtf dude?
    lolz I wasn't. I was browsing that looking for more idiots to crucify in all honesty :P.


    Quote Originally Posted by sangreal View Post
    Sony filed some new stuff tonight: http://www.thesangreal.net/gaf/refiled.zip

    I think this was mostly just to fix the mistake they made earlier when they left the keys and other info in the document they filed. Nothing too interesting. They do complain about Geohot putting the keys back online though, as well as the mirror sites. I expect psgroove.com will take this zip file as an "exclusive" at some point too
    ooh shite. They have caught onto the mirrors. Expect those John does to fill up quickly now :S. lol
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