SCEA is hard at work to find you!

[crazyc]

Anyway. I swear to god I saw an amendment to the DMCA that made jailbreaking and hardware modding perfectly legal. How are they possibly getting away with this.

For cellphones.

[MrKai]

The jailbreak doesnt circumvent copy and access control. It places the console into a debug mode. The backup manager is what facilitates the copying etc. Or am i missing something?

You are. The Non-debug mode is laden with copy and access control. This is why you cannot do the things you can do post-jailbreak...like run unsigned code.

[E.coli]

I found something cool
http://www.networkworld.com/news/201...nted-dmca.html

The DMCA specifically prohibits the circumvention of copy-protection technology such as Digital Rights Management (DRM). Every three years, however, the Librarian of Congress--on recommendation of the Register of Copyrights--issues a ruling on classes of materials that are exempt from that stipulation for noninfringing uses. The rulings expire after three years, meaning that the previous exemptions granted in 2006, 2003, and 2000 are no longer valid today. The other exemptions granted by the Librarian on Monday allow circumvention of protections for copyrighted material on DVD for educators, documentary filmmakers, and noncommercial videos; software to allow phones to connect to cellphone networks; breaking video game protection measures for the purposes of testing; obsolete computer programs requiring a dongle that is broken; and e-books where protections prevent the use of screen readers and read-aloud functions.

[Inaudax]

Mwahahahahahahahaha, this is like... totally hilarious!

[gaganitrate]

I've got no idea about American Law, or any law for that matter

But doesn't the fact that we're doing something to Sony's software, that they don't give us permission to do, matter at all in this?

I mean, in the firmware updates it always clearly state something like "You can not modify this update or ....".
I know we own the hardware, so you can replace the hard drive, blu-ray drive, probably even change the RAM inside that thing.
But I'm pretty sure Sony still owns all software on the PS3, so maybe Sony does have a chance at taking these people down??

Just my 2 cents.

[sabin1981]

For cellphones.

That's an ancient article (2006 man, come on ) here's a recent one where it was deemed legal;

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/us-...ry?id=11254253

Every three years, the Librarian of Congress and the Copyright Office entertain proposed exemptions to the DMCA, passed in 1998. The act forbids circumventing encryption technology to copy or modify copyrighted works. In this instance, Apple claimed the DMCA protects the copyrighted encryption built into the bootloader that starts up the iPhone OS operating system.

But the Copyright Office concluded that, "while a copyright owner might try to restrict the programs that can be run on a particular operating system, copyright law is not the vehicle for imposition of such restrictions."

[crazyc]

I cant see sony winning this (maybe they can win after the clone sellers etc.) this is identical to the iphone jailbreak scene almost to the letter. Apple took similar stances against jailbreaking.

I disagree on the scope of the DMCA, but I agree that they probably will only go after jailbreak retailers and maybe sites hosting the backup manager.

[progenocide]

I knew I shouldn't have read this thread after taking bumps.........another night of looking out the peep hole but not for the cops

[spade_]

I disagree on the scope of the DMCA, but I agree that they probably will only go after jailbreak retailers and maybe sites hosting the backup manager.

What about the ones who don't sell the Jailbreaks but sell the dev boards?

[remainnameless]

To people running around like "tin-hatters":

Guys. Chill out. This will basically only affect the creators of circumvention devices. It will work out kind of like the "seeders" and "leachers" of a torrent. They will go after the head of the snake to kill the rest of the body.

There is a thing called the "Freedom of Information Act". Why do you think you can go online and learn how to make a pipe bomb? Why do you think you can go to a website and learn how to make "magic" mushrooms? You are allowed to freely distribute information, as long as it's not copyrighted/classified info.

You don't need to delete BM. You don't need to delete your SNES emulator.

Chill. lol.

To the big guys:

Good luck. I really hope that nothing will come of this. I really only anticipate at WORST they get some DMCA notices to take down SDK material. I would hate to see a site shut down based on some BS. I'm not sure where this site is hosted, but I doubt that the USA would be allowed to shut down another website located in a "net neutral" country.