PS3 v3.30 update changes your "Terms of Use"

[garyopa]

BREAKING NEWS

Regarding v3.30 update, it seems the terms & service have been updated!

11. MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADES

From time to time, it may become necessary for SCEA to provide certain content to you to ensure that Sony Online Services and content offered through Sony Online Services, your PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system, the PSP (PlayStation Portable) system or other SCEA-authorized hardware is functioning properly in accordance with SCEA guidelines.

Some content may be provided automatically without notice when you sign in. Such content may include automatic updates or upgrades which may change your current operating system, cause a loss of data or content or cause a loss of functionalities or utilities.

Such upgrades or updates may be provided for system software for your PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system, the PSP (PlayStation Portable) system, or other SCEA-authorized hardware. Access or use to any system software is subject to terms and conditions of a separate end user license agreement found at http://www.us.playstation.com/termsofuse.

You authorize SCEA to provide such content and agree that SCEA shall not be liable for any damages, loss of data or loss of functionalities arising from provision of such content or maintenance services. It is recommended that you regularly back up any archivable data located on the hard disk.

The biggest changes in the above is the part about "automatic updates" --- What, they can update without asking now?

And of course "SCEA shall not be liable for any reason" --- In other words, You can't sue us, You can't ask for a refund, and Don't think you get a free repair if bricked!

READ MORE: http://community.eu.playstation.com/.../td-p/10629789

[garyopa]

Sadly, I already got a email from a newly bricked customer thanks to v3.30

After the update, the system just comes on with nothing but a blank screen, no controller sync, nothing.

And even more sad he has a fully loaded 500gb hard drive in his PS3 system, instead of the original 80gb one.
Maybe the update does not like customer-choice of a large hard drive? -- Not authorized by SCEA?

Sony better release some way for customers to be able to restore their data, or move their hard drive to another PS3 without it auto-reformatting.

What is the point of Sony telling you to BACKUP your data, when the feature in the XMB that allows you to BACKUP your data to an external USB device, ONLY allows you to RESTORE on the SAME PS3 unit you did the BACKUP on.

Sony is going with all these updates! -- Any what the v3.30 adds "sorting" for your Trophies? -- Big Deal!

[garyopa]

Looks like more BRICK's are coming, here is site already complaining about it:


http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/...n-power-light/

Oh'well -- It might end up being a busy weekend for me. -- Shit 7am, and I am already at work, I don't want to spend "Earth Day" fixing PS3 bricks!

[yoshi314]

with all my pessimism, i'm surprised they came up with it so late.

you should read the linked user agreement, about "user generated content". loads of fun about how sony can screw you over taking away rights to your own files.

[tex2chi]

sad, sony is destroying itself and pissing off all ps3 owners including myself

[Shango46]

And this is how we trade in our PS3's for 360's. This is bullsh!t $ony. You guys are making the system worse and worse as you go. I am still on 3.15 and happily using Ubuntu with my 500GB HDD. So lets say I want to upgrade. I loose Linux and brick my console to? You make it so appealing! Where do I sign up to loose my system? Get real.

There is still really no word on CFW 3.2100, but that really does not matter now, does it? So now is he going to change it to 3.3000? This sucks. Until this comes out, I am playing Wii. You know, the system that has more than 50% of the game market and ADDS things with updates, not take them away and brick consoles.

[Peppers]

If I wanted to update I would be afraid too, my BA chip in the blueray drive probubley has something wrong with it and it can't read cd's and I don't want to replace it cuz i don't care and the new updates are all picky about little things being broken.

[noetikos]

automatic & mandatory updates? wtf??

its really screwed up that sony is now telling the whole world (in the new terms & policy revision) that they can do whatever they want with your console through software manipulation without user end consent. plus the fact that sony will not be held liable to repair at free of charge or to compensate if their official firmware releases brick older PS3 consoles.

[guenthar]

If the updates are done without user permission and there is no way to prevent them (besides not going online) then it is illegal under anti-hacking laws. That in effect invalidates their EULA since by law a contract can't violate the law.

[noetikos]

If the updates are done without user permission and there is no way to prevent them (besides not going online) then it is illegal under anti-hacking laws. That in effect invalidates their EULA since by law a contract can't violate the law.

not true at all. last year in august of 09', microsoft delivered a "mandatory" update that would disable (blowing certain fuses around the nand chip) certain hardware to prevent hacking the jtag on the mainboard (jtag hack). the 08/09 update also updated the kernel version. this update was mandatory and at that time no one (besides microsoft) had any idea about the technicalities.

the example of above sets the perspective clear that a video game console company can manipulate your console without your consent and get away with it.