PS Jailbreak Update

[KiasuKiasiMan]

You think greedy?

Do you know the profits of Sony on PS3? In the Q1 of 2010 they made 142 Millions of Dollars

You can check the profits and loses - http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/fina.../10q1_sony.pdf

How many games they need to sold of Mafia II to pay it? at the price of 70€ when the game goes out goes down to 30€. I guess Sony is greedy too. If games were much cheaper and faire price piracy never exist.

Umm before Q1 2010, Sony lost over 5 billion on the PS3. Secondly games like Mafia II don't give Sony much of a cut apart from certain royalty fees. Also don't forget that the money used to buy games goes to paying the developers too as well as various costs with regards to marketing etc.

[scarry_bug]

Buying original product does not only guarantee that you will get support , get the best quality product and get something that stays working
your also supporting the people that made the product
that will support the people selling the product
to keep this business alive

This information should be displayed during installation of each game, but its very cheeky when it comes from them ...

Hope that Ps Jeailbreak "team" will be first victim of hardware piracy

[CocaCola13]

You don't think the PS Jailbreak is over priced. I'm willing to guess their profit margin is at least more then 100% (more like 250%).

Of course its not overprized. I did this example already.

The price of 2 New games could be 138€. I already see a list of games working with more than 10 Titles.

So already saves money.

The value of one product its not only the components price but the software creation too.

Since PS Jailbreak was the only ones to create a code to run homebrew applications they don't need to follow none price of the market.

Remember this they were the only ones to create code of this kind. so the price they make.

[matallica28]

Of course its not overprized. I did this example already.

The price of 2 New games could be 138€. I already see a list of games working with more than 10 Titles.

So already saves money.

How does it save you money? Unless you mean you're going to get them for free somehow?

[Xeauron]

How does it save you money? Unless you mean you're going to get them for free somehow?

What he means is that he's going to forgo actually buying games anymore (borrowing or renting) and with the titles he acquires illegally the device will have saved him having to actually buy games any more...

Hence, money saved. Apologies if I read your post wrong and that's not what you meant.

Some would argue that this is why games are so high priced in the first place, others would say developers greed force people to do this. It's the classic chicken and egg argument in which nether side wins.

[CocaCola13]

What he means is that he's going to forgo actually buying games anymore (borrowing or renting) and with the titles he acquires illegally the device will have saved him having to actually buy games any more...

Hence, money saved. Apologies if I read your post wrong and that's not what you meant.

Some would argue that this is why games are so high priced in the first place, others would say developers greed force people to do this. It's the classic chicken and egg argument in which nether side wins.

Yes you are right Xeauron. The classic fight of piracy on games because they are High or developers made them high because people just piracy their games.

And you read well. Of course I will get the games borrow or renting them. This is the thing we should not say but everyone that buy this PS Jailbreak will do.

Even If I buy the game I will share with my friends that have PS Jailbreak too. So games will be more cheaper if we all pay a part.

[medi01]

Of course its not overprized. I did this example already.

The price of 2 New games could be 138€. I already see a list of games working with more than 10 Titles.

So already saves money.

Why 2 games? Why not 5? Why not 20? Or 40? Huh?

Xeauron

It's the classic chicken and egg argument in which nether side wins.

It's actually complete lack of any kind of reasonable argument.
You simply cannot state "support pirates" and "don't support pirates" in the same statement. Which you have to do, in case you'd say "oh, please, don't 'steal' from PSJailbreak, they are good guys, 'steal' from greedy Sony instead".

PSJailbreak is trying to make money on PIRACY. (aka "copiright infridgement") Well, that's OK, but please don't cry us a river about poor PSJailbreak being a "piracy victim" and needing support.

There are GAZZILION of cracks out there, that didn't make a penny for their creators, you know. Or please, remind me, how many millions did Geohot make on jailbreak.

[Xeauron]

Xeauron

It's actually complete lack of any kind of reasonable argument.
You simply cannot state "support pirates" and "don't support pirates" in the same statement. Which you have to do, in case you'd say "oh, please, don't 'steal' from PSJailbreak, they are good guys, 'steal' from greedy Sony instead".

You may have misread that, it's not saying "Pirate" then "Don't pirate" in one statement, it's saying on one side "we pirate because of prices" and on the other side "We charge so much because of piracy".

PSJailbreak is trying to make money on PIRACY. (aka "copiright infridgement") Well, that's OK, but please don't cry us a river about poor PSJailbreak being a "piracy victim" and needing support.

PSjailbreak requires a dongle which needs an investment to produce, they're now trying to protect their investment by saying "we're the group who gave the world PSJailbreak, support us please and we will in turn support you."

Remember, not so long ago people were saying they'd pay hundreds for such an exploit. Now their tune has changed, they want it for free (the pirates want something for free, shock horror).

Also, love your typo on "copyright infridgement", I personally don't store my originals in the fridge, but whatever makes you feel safe...

There are GAZZILION of cracks out there, that didn't make a penny for their creators, you know. Or please, remind me, how many millions did Geohot make on jailbreak.

Since the jailbreak for Iphone doesn't require hardware bundled with it then this would be the reason he didn't make any money from it, apart from the fact he was willing to freely share it in the first place.

But I get what you're saying. From a moral standpoint you can buy one of these and still support developers by buying games, but as CocaCola13 (just reading your name makes me thirsty! lol) said, 99% of people who buy this will use it to pirate. And I tend to agree...

Also I would like to add, when asked "Can the PSJailbreak method be emulated using a hacked PSP?" Matheulh replied "In theory yes, this would likely require to code a new usb driver for the psp though."

You never know, in future this may not need anything more than a hacked PSP.

[CocaCola13]

PS Jailbreak team got hours of work to get this out its normal they would like to get their work paid out. It was they goal of course create a new product that the market desires and sell it. They created an modchip that permits to run another applications on your PS3 and their first program was backup program to backup your games and run from HDD instead of Bluray Drive.

This is usefull because you don't need to change the Disc to change Game and your Bluray Drive get longer life of use and your discs too.

But of course people just doesn't desire to backup their own games, they will backup the games of friends and so on and save some money of course and this is the main reason that this product sells a lot.

Only a fool would take long time of work breaking a code and developing an chip and then give it for free. If was to give for free they wouldn't started to do nothing and no PS Jailbreak was created.

They are people that like to create software and share it. They give their work time for free. Other persons no. I don't condem neither of them.

[BloodRose]

Only a fool would take long time of work breaking a code and developing an chip and then give it for free.

So that would make Commodore4eva, Dark Alex and quite a few members of this forum 'fools' by your calculations then.