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No doubt you seemed to have made a mistake that some people didn't appreciate. Now your trying to get passed that and this is the first step. Problem is people are not going to forget. This is just an opinion, do what you want to do and if people don't appreciate it or like it enough to donate, they won't, if they do, they will. You are very talented and people see that, try your idea above, what have you got to loose. Other suggestions, change your name and make a new fan base with your new work, then try it again with a different approach. Nobody can blame you for wanting to cash in, others already have. I heard mention of PS3's being sold with multiMAN already installed on it and/or the Hermes dongle crap that went down a while back. Point is, it SEEMS that your no different from the rest of these vultures that make money off someones name or work, it's up to you to prove this wrong. I realize you are actually doing the work that is in question, this may be your only true leg to stand on when asking for donations. I see your point, but I see the masses point also. It is a pickle for sure. Regardless, keep up the good work.
Wow, I hope all your friends see that post and think your cool. (sarcasm) Why kick someone when he obviously noticed he has made a mistake and is trying to correct it ? Where do these people come from ? how old are they ?
Originally Posted by nunracer00
Last edited by ChokeD; 06-20-2011 at 11:41 AM.
Reason: late reply
No mistake made, on the contrary, it actually showed that alot of people go crazy when they have to pay for something. Name change will never happen - Ive had it 25 years lol. As far as you saying "it seems that your no different from the rest of these vultures that make money off someones name or work", Any money I have made has been split between myself and dean. You obviously havent read previous posts that I have made...
Originally Posted by ChokeD
Last edited by shagratt71; 06-20-2011 at 12:11 PM.
Trolling post removed. If you have nothing constructive to say, DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL. Next time warnings will be handed out.
Originally Posted by squarepusher2
Sounds like a good idea to me. Personally I haven't donated as I was waiting for your Star Wars update, but when it was released I didn't like being told I HAD to donate. I'm not saying I won't ever donate but if the update had originally been released as a free download then I would have done already. I think if you keep up the impressive work then the donations will come, maybe just not straight away. People will want to know that you're sticking with it first and will be continually updating, much like Dean has done with MultiMAN. I hope this is more constructive.
Originally Posted by shagratt71
Thanks for your comments Jason. Maybe you and others should read this thread on Donations and do they work: Donationware - does it work? - Donationware - does it work?
Originally Posted by thejason40
heres a few quotes from the thread:
If people have the option of not paying for something, they will most likely not pay for it. But if you develop something that many have found useful or would like to see continued development on, then there may be a few generous souls out there. Needless to say, I've donated a few times to folks who develop neat stuff I like to use....
Generally, people do the donationware thing when it would be nice to make a little on the side, but in general, it is good enough to just get people to pay. it isn't a viable business plan. But that isn't the point. If you are expecting lots of donations, or counting on them, then you are making a mistake.
4 donations from 30,000 donwloads?, what sort of message does that send me or anyone for that matter?, surely more than four people liked it enough to make a donation?
From experience, I have to say that you'll be lucky if anyone donates anything.
I just enjoy the coding... and knowing that something I've created might be of use to someone else.
Still, it's quite warming inside, when that single person does contribute.
I think I have proven that the majority dont give a damn about the developers as long as they keep releasing things for free. This culture has to change or it will be goodnight PS3 scene and beyond...
horny little bugger!!!!!!!!lol
horny little bugger!!!!!!!!lol –
lol good work boob somethin different
Originally Posted by boob4me
dragon stuff for shelf!
dragon stuff for shelf! –
Last edited by boob4me; 06-20-2011 at 06:00 PM.
You did make a mistake, you gave us v1 with no mention of donations and then you let everyone get hyped up for 1.5 and release it with a mandatory/forced FEE calling it a donation. If you are asking for peoples opinion, as you were in the post I responded to, maybe you should take your own advice and read the link you got for Donationware.
"Generally, people do the donationware thing when it would be nice to make a little on the side, but in general, it is good enough to just get people to pay. it isn't a viable business plan. But that isn't the point. If you are expecting lots of donations, or counting on them, then you are making a mistake."
Dean is fully capable of acquiring donations for himself, it's a good gesture, but, in disguise, it SEEMS to me that you are just skimming for money for the work you've done, which your entitled to, but your just riding on the coat tale of others. Don't ask for opinions and then get all defensive when you don't get the feedback you expect. SEEMS to me your just making another mistake. Expecting, forcing and then asking for something, it didn't turn out how you expected when you tried to force donations and now your blaming the people for the possible future downfall of the scene because you don't see donations in your future, especially after the mistakes with PR you've made already. Believe it or not, I was trying to understand your reasoning before, now I could care less.
The scene was here before you, we'll be here when your gone.
Very little respect to you now,
EDIT: By the way, your first quote states almost word for word what Jason stated in his comment and yet you tell him he should go read it ??
I'm done with this conversation. I'll still share my work for free, don't expect me to converse about this with you again.
ChokeD, The only thing I objected to in your post was the statement "it SEEMS that your no different from the rest of these vultures that make money off someones name or work". Come on ChokeD does that honestly sound like a reasonable statement?, I think any reasonable person would take offence to that. I give up.... seriously
Originally Posted by ChokeD