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Ghost 2 - A truly legal mod?
Ghost 2 - A truly legal mod? –
It seems another mod chip manufaturer has risen from the ashes and has been renamed the Ghost 2. While only taking the name of its predecssor in the subtitle, and nothing of the architecture, it claims to be the "World First SP2 Legal Concept Mod" in their FAQ.
Some claim that there are already signs that their flashes are not what they should be. More to come as we get it..
Sony Playstation 2
Originally Posted by spydermono
Well according to their website it boots all media, so it seems it's "legality" is somewhat suspct I see nothing about it not booting backups anywhere on the site. But it does claim to be fully flashable, and i guess they are claiming the code in it violates no sony copyrights.
It boots ABSOLUTELY NO BACKUPS in it's default legal state.
Originally Posted by _zaphod_
DEFAULT LEGAL STATE = how it comes when it's shipped to resellers, and from resellers to end users.
At the end, it's the END USER who download a FLASH FILE and who programm it or not into G.2 or another device.
The features you're talking about, are taken from the FLASH FILE SPECS.
If you was living in thailand, or any country that have no really copyright laws, you could legally download the current G.2 flash file and use it.
But not if you are living in DMCA/EUCD country.
End user is responsible of what FLASH FILE he will use to programm his chip, he can have one legally for his country, with no backup allowed. or he can get one which is illegal in his country.
IT's HIS OWN responsability.
When shipped, the product comes with a complete BLANK EEPROM.
And in this default legal state, no patch are applied to CDVD and BIOS. (not the case of other mod)
SCEX is also not activated (not the case of other mod)
once again, it seems you make a mistake between 2 differents things, group who protect themself, because they don't want any things like backup, etc.. listed on their web site. but who got a complete illegal device.
and group who didn't protect themself, as may be the business is owned in different country where law are different, but DO WORK to protect their resellers.
If i have to choose between:
1) Chip that boot only homebrew, but patch CDVD/BIOS and SCEX all the time, and compatible flash file that may be illegal in some country can be downloaded on the net. but their web site won't mention it.
2) Chip that boot only homebrew and didn't patch CDVD/BIOS and SCEX at all, but you can get a compatible flash file that may be illegal in some country in their web site, but remains an USER choice and responsability to download/use it.
My choice is made and it's #2 !
EUCD/DMCA didn't said that writing features on your web site is illegal. the law said: Any device that will circumvent anti copy copyrighted technical measures is illegal.
if your chips send any data to SCEX, CDVD, BIOS it's illegal.
G.2 didn't send any data to CDVD/BIOS in it's default legal state.
G.2 didn't send automatically any data to scex line when eprom is blank (while other mod automatically send data and are going in so called recovery mode)
So just tell me which mod is closer to legal status ?
(except from the early generation like titan SX, etc..)
doesn't XBOX mods do this alrdy? heh :-p
(don't have an xbox so i'm not shure)
yes some XBOX mod are legal already.
Originally Posted by Allenylc
Due to enigmah court case mostly.
But it seems only a few learned from that.
may be cause they didn't get any trouble with laws yet.
The Messiah boys apparently will not rest until they are rotting away in a Russian prison somewhere. How dumb does one have to be to come out with another chip using the Messiah name after everything that has happened?
All this "legal" modchip bullshit all comes down to nothing more than trying to protect the arses of the distributors and these attempts to circumvent the laws are very thin. If they wanted to (and they probably will) Sony could still wrangle a very nice court case. To the end user, these mods are all the same and function pretty much identically. The best choice will be the one that offers the best features FOR THE END USER.
well all x-box mod are pretty much BIOS replacements now, and most of them come flashed wiith the Cromwell Clean BIOS, which boots LInux, and doesn't boot games at all. It contains NO microsoft code of any kind. They are thus legal.
SO does the chip do ANYTHING before flashing? Does it boot homebrew without patching the BIOS?
It seems to me that run-time patching is legal, due to the fact that the change to the copyrighted code is temporary in nature. The game genie and the like are legal for the same reason. Now if the patching circumvent sprotection, then yes, said patching is illegal. But just because it performs run-time patching doesn't make it automatically illegal, no matter how copyrighted the code patched is! Just liek with a heat device, as soon as the power goes off, the copy goes away. If the chip itsel fpermanantly modified the BIOS, thenit would be illegal.
Truly legal? Think again! Who you gonna call? Ghost Bustah!
Truly legal? Think again! Who you gonna call? Ghost Bustah! –
ok, after weeks of listening to oldspirit2's marketing bullshit about this lame "legal" chip, time to burst the bubble.
You spend so much time and energy telling your bullshit about how removing EEPROM/removing wires/whatever makes a chip legal. This is simply not true and will NOT hold up in court. "Manual tricks" don't matter. The law won't say "oh, you have to solder a jumper before it plays backup?! In that case this is a perfectly legal chip!". These are not stupid people we're talking about! They have millions of dollars to FIGHT these things with and you'd better believe they will check every nook and cranny.
Now that aside, let's take a look at why the whole Ghost 2 thing is more illegal than even Messiah 2 and such are.
Attached you'll find the "Recovery Disc" for this Ghost 2 chip, which at the time of this writing is available for download from the official Ghost 2 website at www.ghost2.net. If you extract the "MAIN.EXE" file from the disc image and search inside it with a hex-editor for the text "Sony" inside, you'll notice that it contains the following message "Library Programs (c) 1993-1997 Sony Computer Entertainment Inc., All Rights Reserved". Now why on earth do you suppose a legal application would have such a thing? Because it's written with ILLEGAL copyright library programs, of course.
Next time you want to try this shit, I suggest you guys put a little bit more thought into it.