GC Viper Drivecode 1.0 Released!

[Peppers]

noboady better diss Tmbinc every single gc modchip is based on his design they are all clones of his work (sept one homrew one thats not actually a modchip) witch he gave for free to the public he sertanley is not some money grubing sceamer anyboady that says differintley is a bitch/dumbass

[ebob]

As for GCOS yes you are correct. but same could be said about all the Xbox bios software. one would not be here with out the other. and I'm sure we could say the same about the PS2 chips as well.

I agree, I think if one group discovers a way to do something new, its only logical for another group to do the same for their product. The difference of course, is in reversing/understanding/implementing rather than just plain rip(per)ing.

but GCOS is the only true no copyright code to run backups. Because its software is based on the machine control language.

No copyright, sure but it's based on Anaconda and tmbinc's IPL code ( http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/gc-linux/ipl/ doesn't seem it contains any license files). But how is it the *only* one as such? In other words, what makes GCOS free of copyrighted code and not cobra? I'm not really sure what you meant by the second part. If you mean because the drive code is in asm, so?

And yes I'm trying to say lets support the other mod chips because they will base either chips to run on GCOS code which in turn is not affected by any copyrights.

Again, GCOS is based on Cobra code. I'm not bashing GCOS, but this new 1.0 code didn't come to them on their own. The first clone you mention has a complete Cobra ripoff bios. And I'm fairly confident GCOS *hates* Wilcd (ninjamod), as he attempted to screw them over. Wilcd went as far as to request that someone ask Viper if a special version of the bios can be made that runs on his mod (as if there was a chance in hell, for many obvious reasons) so that:

"they can beat GCOS team in double side "

All I'm saying is the GC chips are starting out on bad feet with the 2 groups making chips I question. The clone chip groups are actualy smart because they most likely won't get sued for what they sell is legal to install

Okay, you're right. The groups are obviously questionable, but why the chips themselves? Perhaps there should be more teams developing mods. But they should actually be working on the software side as well, developing new features on their own. As far as legality of *any* chip goes, refer to the long Ghost2 thread. The primary intent of any of these devices is obvious. Given that the DMCA gives as much power as it does for the wide definition of what could be considered circumvention, none of these little sidesteps will make a difference. They're well aware of why customers buy these chips, and wouldn't be wasting their time on any that were exclusively for development purposes.

And finally, you're right that teams like ninjamod will most likely not be sued. Not because their devices are legal, but because if you're going to take out anyone, it would be those doing the real software work as well as profiting off hardware like Viper and Qoob (so far).