DMS3 Review!

[kelvin]

Originally posted by charlie_ps2
Ultradude & Kelvin, thanks for replying.

I'm weak on RGB / Macrovision etc. These are DVD movies to which I am referring. What I've been told here is that DVD movies going out the PS2 with RGB have macrovision defeat by default.

That's OK. It means that my Macrovision defeat test needs to be by RF - Standard Scart is too difficult to organise in my setup).

Thanks again

Yes, if green screen is disabled and your connectibg via RGB, then RGB output will be macro-off by default.

But you doint need to modulate the vido signal to RF (a tv aerial type input), just connect the standard playstation 2 scart lead in place of your RGB scart lead, the standard lead is a video level output and will have macrovision on it even though your connecting via scart.

[charlie_ps2]

Originally posted by kelvin
Yes, if green screen is disabled and your connectibg via RGB, then RGB output will be macro-off by default.

But you doint need to modulate the vido signal to RF (a tv aerial type input), just connect the standard playstation 2 scart lead in place of your RGB scart lead, the standard lead is a video level output and will have macrovision on it even though your connecting via scart.

My VCR has RGB input/output or RF input output and no Scart. The RGB output is wired to a Scart end for the TV.

[kelvin]

Originally posted by charlie_ps2
My VCR has RGB input/output or RF input output and no Scart. The RGB output is wired to a Scart end for the TV.

Surely your video has RCA jack video / audio inputs ?
If it has, pull the scart block off the standard lead and connect just the RCA's.

[charlie_ps2]

Yes the VCR has the RCA jack video that's what I meant by RGB I/O. So I put the Yellow/White jacks into the VCR. Then Two similar jacks come out and are wired into a Scart lead that gopes into the TV. Anyway since it's the NTSC v8 I'm testing for Macrovision I have a means of modulating to RF with my NTSC to PAL convertor; then I can go RF out of the VCR.

Run the test with DMS3 off; and again with DMS3 on using a US DVD movie.

[Gradius]

In order to test 100% the macrovision you need to record on VCR (30 seconds is more than sufficient) part of DVD movie, and playback from tape (VHS or SVHS), if you see a perfect picture (by perfect I mean, no change colors, come in-come out effect, or any distortion), so the macrovision is off.

You can only use RF, RCA or S-video (Y/C) connection. Video component also, but it's rare to found any VCR with input and output using video component.

A lot movies just use macrovision type 1, movies like "Tomorrow Never Dies" (another James Bond movie) uses type 2, but I cannot confirm that now.

I remember an anime on DVD uses type 2 or type 3:

- Ninja Scroll (from Manga, Region 1)

Near to any Manga (anime on DVD) release (http://www.manga.com) uses so called type 2 or 3.

To know more about Macrovision types visit:
http://www.macrovision.com/solutions...chsup/dvd.php3

Gradius

[Deathwish]

i dont know if this helps but i used to have a problem with dvd movies on v7

When it as chiped with messiah 2, i used to have green screens. now with dms3 its normall!!!

[charlie_ps2]

On my PAL only TV, the NTSC movies arfe greyscale on Messiah2 and DMS3. On the mulrisystem TV all's well in bothworlds in this respect.

[kelvin]

Originally posted by charlie_ps2
On my PAL only TV, the NTSC movies arfe greyscale on Messiah2 and DMS3. On the mulrisystem TV all's well in bothworlds in this respect.

I believe up to V6 performing colour correction on a PAL console sets DVD video output to Pal 60hz when NTSC films are played (the same as NTSC games are PAL 60hz). however on a V7 and possibly now a V8 it is not possible to colour correct to obtain PAL DVD film output when modifying in this way, the new video encoder IC used deals with the DVD video playback differently.

On these models it will be necessary to connect using an RGB scart lead to obtain colour on NTSC DVD film playback, but this can only be done direct to a television set as VCR's do not accept RGB.

So there are some minor limitations on PAL users with respect to V7 and V8 consoles and ability to record NTSC films.

The best results will be obtained from V3-6 PAL consoles as the colour correction modification will set DVD output to PAL also, allowing both VCR and TV to be OK in 70 % of cases (not all TV''s accept 60hz signals).

[Solid988]

no matter how you connect the ps2 to your VCR......macrovision will remain moslty........i tried........

how will you know? well, you put in an empty VHS tape and hit the record button......the moment you do that the picture will go crazy .........THATS macrovision........if it goes normal then its disabled

[Snoopy007]

Originally posted by kelvin
Magics also may be installed more in Asian consoles than Pal or USA versions as its originating country is in Asia, therefore the PAL / USA community see's very little of its high esteem which many of us know it has attained in the Asian market, and indeed performance in those consoles appear to be of higher standard, so who is right to benchmark such a chip as 'Messiah 2' as superior in Asia, when the Magic's are performing outstandingly ?

can I just say what a load of crap.

magic3 actually peform about the same on both us and jap console and slightly worse in pal consoles.

The only reason why magic 3 is used in asia is cos of the price. (not used much in HK though. In HK it is mainly apple 2/apple 39006 and bluechip with a few people using NH3)

You think they wouldn't mind messiah 2 performance for the same price as magic 3?????