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Nice. It's cool to still see support for the CC even though many people have moved on to the next generation. Thanks.
Originally Posted by CrystalChip
I will support you and crystal chips 100%.
The crystal chip has given me so much joy and the support from the crystal chip team is 100%.
I recommend the crystal chip to everyone.
Be proud crystal and dont worry what other say.
You know the truth and thats all that matters.
As for "vectorz" saying you stole from anyone tell him where to go.
he is probably still playing the n64 and snes.
Anyway crystal keep up the gr8 work and cant wait for release 35 and the big surprise.
I'm curious why this is - could you point me to where this is explained?
Originally Posted by CrystalChip
Is it possible to install HD Loader to the chip itself so that you don't need the hard drive or memory card to run it? I'm looking to replicate the Toxic OS functionality with the Crystal Chip.
CC seems like such a better chip, but the integrated HD loading from Toxic OS is very useful.
Yes with the SLE HDL can be installed directly to the cflash as well as booted from the cflash from within BM.
I'll quickly explain here rather than search the forums for the answer.
Why HDL features will never be integrated into CC:
1. Legality. Sony has made it clear that they find HDL to be a threat and there is little legal justification for this feature. We attempt to keep CC as legitimate as possible to allow users in more restrictive countries to enjoy the features without incurring the wrath of local laws and Sony.
2. There already exists a solution. HDL is available from a number of sources and with the patchers available, you can take your retail copy of HDL and turn it into a slim ELF which is executable from any number of devices.
3. It is not worth the trouble when #1 and #2 are taken into consideration.
The most common response to this is "You won't do it because you haven't the skills!". I'm not sure if this is simply an attempt to get us to prove them wrong or just stupidity but either way it's not true. BM, CC hardware and associated software have the platform needed for us to implement HDL features with relatively little work. I think the feature set that we've provided to date shows that we have the skills required. The reasons I've provided are the truth, believe it or not.
now to answer your other question, yes HDL can be installed directly to flash. However the BM software, HDD/USB/Network drivers take up most of the free space available on the 1MByte flash version. In order to fit HDL on flash you will need to make a slim version of BM without these drivers to free up the necessary space for storing HDL.
Now I have a question for you that I have a difficult time understanding. Logically, since you're using HDL it can be assumed that you're using a HDD. Why would you not simply install the HDL application to HDD and boot it from there then? From a user standpoint, there is no difference lauching an application from any device be it flash, memory card, HDD, etc. You can create a very small partition on HDD for installing applications so I see no problem there either. Please help me understand this, from a user point of view!
That all makes sense. I figured it wasn't from a lack of talent, as everything else regarding the CC speaks of it. With HDL available as you mentioned, I was curious how people were integrating HDL, whether on the chip, HD, or MC.
Originally Posted by CrystalChip
The main reason for my interest in having HDL onboard is to not have to "re-install" it if the MC or HD were changed out. I'm looking at modding a PS2 for a friend of a friend, and to reduce the amount of problems down the road, an onboard solution would be easier.
If they were to change out the hard drive and not have HDL, I think they would have no idea how to re-install it. Silly I know, but trying to make things as idiot-proof as possible. Plus, they are already familiar with the Toxic OS, as it was my friend's PS2 they saw (and thusly wanted one too).
I did see in another thread that the flash can be replaced with a larger one (davbere's mod was excellent, BTW). I think in the future I might go that route, should the 2MB CC chips be hard to find.
The CC is definitely come about as the best modchip out there. With a bit larger flash size and possibly a functional replacement to using ExecFTPS/HDLD_SVR/HDL_Dump I can't think of anything else it would need.
Well, the only problem of HDL is incompatibility with some of the games - and it's hard to fix them without source. With your HDD Loader, it would be possible to fix each game - it would be much easier
enough, end of dreaming
maybe in this year HDD Demolisher will show up, and will fix some of incompatibilities of HDL.
I'm curious, how much longer can we realistically expect support for the PS2? Games are still being released this year, but I don't see much into 2008 the PS2 being supported.
raiderj: I think I see your point regarding swapping out of HDD/MC. However, I would have to think that someone capable of performing a HDD replacement and using HDL would also be capable of re-installing HDL after swapping out the HDD. There are definately places where BM could use improvement in regard to HDD such as formatting and automatic partitioning. Perhaps when this is resolved in the future this will not be so problematic for the less technical users such as your friends. Anyway, as you've said you can always go with a bigger flash.
stefanol69: There exists some problems with what you suggest as well as an additional reason why CC will not integrate HDL. Due to the fact that emulation of the disc drive is a rather complex thing which is prone to incompatibilities due to simple things like timing differences, it would create a much greater workload for us when new games come out that need specific fixes.
The alternative would be to make the HDL-like code open-source. This is not really possible, however, since the result would be our hard work going to cheap clone makers. This is exactly the problem with people supporting clones, it makes it impossible to do many things simply because they would be abused and we get no respect for our original developments because people think that a modchip is a simple "crack" which is used to pirate games.
Some day I hope that people learn to respect the intellectual property of others. If you enjoy a piece of software you should show your support by purchasing it. This goes for games, operating systems or even the software that runs on a modchip. I realize that in quite a few cases the price exceeds what you consider the value of a product. Even so, you have a choice to use a less-priced product instead or nothing at all. Piracy will not solve the issue or "teach them a lesson". It will either raise prices or cause the end of a company because nobody can operate at a loss.
That's enough ranting from me. I hope that I've helped some people understand the developer's position in regard to piracy, cloning, etc. A lot of work can go in to developing a product that has a physical weight that can be measured in grams or a digital weight of megabytes. Nobody would like having their time and energy stolen from them so try not to be a hypocrite!
You can expect support from CrystalChips as long as there are sales and there are outstanding problems or features planned. Sales are of course important because we cannot operate without profit, this simply isn't a situation anyone would operate in. Regardless, we will not leave our customers with broken software and you can rest assured that the final version of the CC software will be great.
Originally Posted by raiderj