Article: Sony Gearing Up To Issue The Ban Hammer - CFW Users Beware!

[krytonic]

In the case where media contents are protected using some effective copy protection scheme, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) of 1998 makes it illegal to manufacture or distribute circumvention tools and use those tools for infringing purposes. In the 2009 case RealNetworks v. DVD CCA,[14] the final injunction reads, "while it may well be fair use for an individual consumer to store a backup copy of a personally owned DVD on that individual's computer, a federal law has nonetheless made it illegal to manufacture or traffic in a device or tool that permits a consumer to make such copies."[15] This case made clear that manufacturing and distribution of circumvention tools was illegal, but use of those tools for non-infringing purposes, including fair use purposes, was not.

Look at the bald text, then look up the "Fair use" law. It is not illegal to backup PS3 games AT ALL if you don't share them. I don't want to replace them when they get damaged. I don't want to replace my PS3's Bluray laser because they use a cheap one. I am not breaking the law in the UK, nor in the US.

Like I said it being written on a box does not make it law and you have to be a little foolish to believe that.

[Goku1992]

@Ahou
This may be true but you have to not take very good care of your disc if you let that happen. Unless you have children but why would children be touching a $300+ gaming console is beyond me.

But like I said this is why gaming companies offer a digital copy.

@Krytonic
I see what you are saying but gaming companies NEVER nor gaming consoles never make their systems for backing up because of the use of the piracy issue.

[krytonic]

@Ahou
This may be true but you have to not take very good care of your disc if you let that happen. Unless you have children but why would children be touching a $300+ gaming console is beyond me.

But like I said this is why gaming companies offer a digital copy.

@Krytonic
I see what you are saying but gaming companies NEVER nor gaming consoles never make their systems for backing up because of the use of the piracy issue.

The system may not be made for backing up, but that doesn't make it illegal. I am not arguing with you I am arguing with the other guy because he said that making your own copy for personal use is illegal, just because it is written on a box. I was just proving him wrong with facts because I don't like being called a criminal out of someone's pure ignorance when I am not doing anything illegal. The circumvention tool mentioned in one of the quotes is Multiman, circumventing the Bluray protection that he seems to think is illegal.

[Goku1992]

@Krytonic
I know that you were referring to him. All I am saying is in general that the use of "backups" is such a grey area because only a very few people really backup their games while others pirate off of them. But what you said was true though technically any person who bought content can back them up as long they don't sell it or redistribute it out. Which is why P*****.com isn't really touched by Sony because of the legality of the backups. Even though you and I know what that site is really meant for.

[ccfman2004]

Even the ToS and EULA isn't law when the companies want you to believe so.

There are some countries where it is perfectly legal to pirate digital content as long as you don't make a profit from it.

I remember several years ago when Sony went to great trouble to protect certain audio CDs from being ripped by including a root kit on the CD that would auto install itself and prevent you from using any program to rip the audio to MP3. This root kit caused the PCs to be vulnerable to malware. Sony was found guilty and forced to recall the CDs and issue compensation.

Just because something is written on a product doesn't make it law.

PS3 Blu-Ray discs do not have any copy protection at all otherwise you wouldn't be able to view the disc contents on a computer. The copy protection is on the PS3 itself which verifies that the disc is original.

The music industry is going to great lengths to stop us from being able to rip our music so we can listen to it on portable music players.

There is no law in the US that prevents one from making a backup of discs.

[Elmo111]

This whole thing of "I was banned but didn't do anything wrong - I was only on CFW" is questionable at best. I'm on CFW. I'm online. I played Black Ops II almost 2 weeks before release date. I played Black Ops II online at least a week before release date.

There's more to this than what people are admitting to

There is no more than what I have told you.

I dont cheat online, I dont do anything on that console other than stream MKV's from my NAS and play a couple of legitimately backed up games on it. I personally think it was the issue of it being a downloaded copy of BLOPS 2 that flagged at Sony's end.

[krytonic]

There is no more than what I have told you.

I dont cheat online, I dont do anything on that console other than stream MKV's from my NAS and play a couple of legitimately backed up games on it. I personally think it was the issue of it being a downloaded copy of BLOPS 2 that flagged at Sony's end.

I've had BLOPS 2 flagged since they won't let me play it online and I don't cheat online either. But, alas, I can still connect to PSN. My console and PSN account is not banned. This is the same for, well, 99% of people so this is why it looks very much like you have cheated or used an exploit online.

[Goku1992]

@Elmo111

Dude.... you said it yourself you played a pirated version online. That was why you were banned

[krytonic]

@Elmo111

Dude.... you said it yourself you played a pirated version online. That was why you were banned

No it wasn't. I downloaded the game before I actually bought it. I am not banned.

[Goku1992]

@Krytonic
I was speaking about Elmo111 not you.

I personally have not bought/pirated Black Ops 2 yet. I am really looking forward to far cry 3