It is that serious guys. They're basically saying that we (Sony) can do whatever we want and you (the customer) can't do jack about it. Want your personal info kept private? - tough. Want to be able to use any usb device even if it doesn't come from Sony - too bad. Anonymous or another group hacks PSN again and steals all your credit card info and maxes them out - sorry about your bad luck. It certainly is not gonna effect me in the slightest because I will never go back on PSN. I didn't really care for it when I had it. This is just one more step towards a "big brother" society. Anybody read 1984? This kind of thing is just another step towards total control. Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I bought my PS3. I own it, and I might get banned for this but all I can say is screw you to Sony for trying to keep control over something I own. People who blindly agree to things and are just gonna hit accept without reading it are a huge problem for the rest of us. It's ok, just keep hitting accept. Sure it may seem like minor stuff to some people, but that's the catch. This is not the first "minor change" that they've done and it certainly won't be the last. Where does it stop? When the only way to go online is to have a usb jack surgically implanted in your skull? Go ahead and laugh at that, it may seem far fetched but remember what seemed like science fiction 50 years ago is common place now. Call me paranoid if you want to, but the sheep of this world that blindly agree to anything will be the ruin of us all
Once again its not that serious I doubt u gunna buy a PS4 anyway. Anyways yes Sony are assholes but we love them -.- I dont care for them as a company but I <3 their products. Furthermore nobody hated Sony until the hacking scene began. All of this "freedom" but plz you own a PS3 and you can do what you want to it as long as u keep it to yourself and don't tell anyone. Anyhoo Sony can be a dick at times but you cant deny they are still the best console out of the three and still king of the handhelds. Just deal w. it like seriously its a regular TOS/Agreement that nobody "including me" read anyway
EULAs are not above the law, so if you see something in an EULA that isnt legal, then you dont have to worry about it. EULAs like this is also very common, it has been like this for years, so it is nothing new really.
I hate to say this but this all began with the PSx
Like for example
Bleem was a promising commercial Playstation emulator which first appeared in 1999. It was a relatively small emulator which could run many games pretty fast. Two versions of Bleem were available, a demo version (available below) and the full version which required a CD key to function.
David vs. Goliath
Because Bleem tried to commercially exploit it's Playstation emulator, it was a prime target for Sony (the creators of the Playstation) to sue. After all in Bleem's case there was an actual entity to sue (the company) whereas the authors of freeware emulators are much harder to sue because it's not always clear who "owns" freeware emulators.
One of the last products Bleem released was Bleemcast, an emulator for the Dreamcast which allowed owners of Sega's Dreamcast to play a few popular Playstation games on it. Unfortunately the Dreamcast was abandoned by it's creator, Sega, which left Bleemcast without a system to run on.
Gone the way of the Dodo
Although Bleem won most of the lawsuits launched against it by Sony, Bleem lost a lot of time and money in court due to these lawsuits. Combined with the lack of succes of their Bleemcast product and the fact that many gamers were moving on to newer, better systems eventually lead to Bleem's demise. As of November 2001, Bleem is no more.
Below you can find the Bleem demo, to see what Bleem once was. If you want the full version you might be able find it discounted in some shops or as abandonware on some websites. Additionally if you are one of the owners of a Bleem CD key, you might be able to find the last beta versions and use them (version 1.6a, 1.6b).
Still...there are thousands of EULAS worse than this and really it wouldnt effect people at all that is on a CFW so why hate on something that you cant agree to anyway?
I don't hate S hardware in the slightest but their business with public relations is getting out of hand and like I posted on the other post of mine giving my personal information without consent is going to far to me :rant:
Why wouldn't I buy a PS4? I've owned every game console since the atari 2600 at some point or another - even the 3DO, NeoGeo Gold, CD-I and TurboDuo. Yes, I like Sony products. You're right that it's not gonna effect me because I'm not on PSN and have no intention of ever going back (as I mentioned earlier). Yes, there are worse EULAS out there and yes, people are going to blindly accept them time and time again. That's where I have a problem with it. There is going to come a tipping point where the consumer has no rights whatsoever because people have the mindset that "oh, it's only a small change, I guess it's ok" or like you said don't bother to read it at all and just hit accept. That's fine to do once or twice, but these "minor changes" will continue to add up to something bigger than what we're looking at right now. I probably put a little too much exaggeration on it to make my point, but the point is still a valid one
What are you referring to with "this all began"? You have earlier cases before this, like Sega VS Accolade for example:
Originally Posted by RandQalan
Sega v. Accolade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I dont think the death of the Dreamcast had much effect on Bleemcast. Bleemcast still worked on all the already sold Dreamcast consoles.
Originally Posted by RandQalan
All your said is true but I was pointing out S move to nullify the right of the consumer
and DC Bleemcast could have been better if S wouldn't have drained the company but it is history now
Oh I see so you are buying 1. Anyways I do see your point and yeah its pretty bad some parts I'm even horrified that they can do that legally but at the end of the day its kinda their servers their rules the only way it would change if 80% of the player base don't accept their EULA and complain about it then Sony wouldnt do it but the problem here is mostly people that deal with the PS3 scene would be aware of it and the typical gamer wouldn't care and just click accept. I admit most video game EULAS I don't read but anyways the truth on why they do this is because of the hackers I never had to worry about any of this shit and constant updating only because of the hackers.
No Linux? Blame Geohot
Crazy EULAS? Blame Hackers
Constant Firmware updates? Blame hackers
Its the hackers fault lol its like saying I own a computer but I have the right to hack into the Pentagon servers because I can do "what I want" with it. See my point? All of this madness came after PS Jailbreak in 2010.