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11-12-2011,07:01 PM

Originally Posted by
rAiN mAn 2o0o
why would anyone who already has a nice tv want A TINY 24 inch screen?!?! That is ridiculous! should at least be 32 inch minimum!! what a joke!!
and only 2 hdmi!??! seriously!? where is the Digital Port? and DVI or RGB computer input? lacking features in almost every area! this is definately a product that I will never give a second look! Sony tvs suck anyway! over 20+ models of sony tvs have problems with HDMI and Playstation 3!
Spend your money more wisely and get a superior product from either samsung or LG! or if you want to cheap out.. go to walmart and buy a cheaper one still!
This is more as a monitor if i'm not mistaken, it is not a TV. That is probably why it is 24" and not 32". But this is mainly a product for people who want a 3D display for a competitive price.
Which models have problems with PS3 and HDMI by the way? And what type of problem is it?
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11-12-2011,07:55 PM
From what i can some up, this is not aimed to be a full functioning swiss army knife of a TV. It has the bare basics; 2 hdmi inputs, 3D and glasses. Thats what makes it so cheap in comparison to other 3D alternatives. Obviously if you pit this against other 3d TVs feature to feature it would loose hands down, as its only real advantage is simuview, where everywhere else it falls short of perfection.This is a budget product, and I don't have a problem with it lacking features that most wont use, especially when it is this much cheaper then other 3D panels. That being said, if you want a bigger panel, just wait a bit. I will bet my left leg that in to time a bigger screen will come with a few extra features, like maybe a remote control and more inputs.
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11-12-2011,08:01 PM
If a common sony 2011 3d tv set + sony best 3d lens looks like this (i have those) :

(THE ONLY THING YOU COULD SEE IN 3D IS THE OBJECTS IN CLOSE UP, THE REST IS CROSSTALK)
Then you ll be able to "see" your mate screen too.
All this is sony crap and marketing to sell old displays other way they couldnt.
Wake up , people, there is a crisis out there.
I hate to play Uncharted 3 in 3D.
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11-12-2011,08:53 PM
Does anybody know the weight of the universal glasses - I looked earlier but couldn't find it. If they're lighter than my samsung and rechargeable I'd be very interested.BTW for everybody dismissing the display as too small I have a friend who is planning on getting one - he keeps a little screen at the bottom of his bed and plays in there too when the family are watching rubbish on telly (and don't forget 3d films aren't all kids or horror.........)
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11-13-2011,10:22 AM
Another piece of bull crap ... Sony trying to sell outdated technology to it's poorest branch consumers : SCEE. Looks like cheap plastic shit. Either buy LG, Samsung, THEY are cheaper and their technology outruns japanese ones since some time now. Sony = very expensive products, communist policy and no rights for consumers. Avoid this shit. 24" is really too small for HD display (especially for 1080p, needs to be at least 32-40"), you can barely make the difference from SD.
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11-13-2011,02:48 PM
24" is way too small for an immersive 3D experience, so the only reason someone should buy this is if they like the SimulView thing, although i doubt wearing 3D glasses during SimulView will be very appealing for most. Really, whether you're interested in 3D or the SimulView thing, you'd be better off buying a 50" 3D HDTV and then playing spit screen(same difference size wise) for two players.
If you watch out for sales, you can buy a 42" 3D HDTV for the same amount($500) or a 50" 3D HDTV for just $150 more($650) than what they're charging you for this 24" overpriced computer display.
Yeah, that's what i said. There are more places to buy TV's than Walmart, Best Buy, etc. If people actually did a little research and spent a little time on the internet pricing different TV's, then they wouldn't make the mistake of calling this a "budget" 3D display. If anything, you're paying a premium for this product, compared to what you can buy an actual "budget" 3D HDTV for.
Just doing a quick search, here's a 42" Sammy 3D 720p Plasma HDTV w/ 2 pairs of active shutter glasses for $550, or a 50" Sammy 3D 720p Plasma HDTV w/ 2 pairs of active shutter glasses for $699, and they even come with a remote!
I guess i don't have enough posts to leave a link, so just go to crutchfield dot com and search under their 3D TV's category.
Last edited by staindrocks; 11-13-2011 at 06:08 PM.
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11-14-2011,03:07 PM

Originally Posted by
yes159
This is more as a monitor if i'm not mistaken, it is not a TV. That is probably why it is 24" and not 32". But this is mainly a product for people who want a 3D display for a competitive price.
Which models have problems with PS3 and HDMI by the way? And what type of problem is it?
most of the problems I am referring to are with sony bravia 720P tvs.. I have one.. my lil bro has a slightly newer model.. and my friend down the street has a slightly older one.. all are bravia 720p.. and ALL have problems with HDMI from PS3. Say No signal/ weak signal. ONLY WAY TO FIX IT IS TO SHUT OFF POWER TO TV AND PS3 FOR 15 MINUTES AND THEN RESCAN CHANNELS ON YOUR TV... MAJOR WASTE OF TIME EVERYTIME YOU WANNA PLAY PS3) ...have tried all sorts of diff cords.. its the tv.. at one time I read that you could update the firmware by USB stick from sony's official site.. but since they have removed the firmware ( want you to buy a new tv rather than have the one you already have work!.. gotta love it! not..)
also to be fair.. There is also ONE and only One old model of samsung tv that has the same problem.. my dad's tv.. not sure of the model number but it is 46 inch 120hz lcd 1080p samsung.. 5 or 6 years old..
after lots of research the problem I think is in the HDMI 1.2/1.3 handshake technology. Have tried diff cords.. several ps3's.. and every tV in my house has problems with it (shitty luck for me!) bluray players and xbox 360's all work fine!
and you said "competitive price".. 499 is a ripoff if you ask me! simulview or not! and you only get 1 pair of glasses.. so you have to spend almost 600 bucks to even use that feature! maybe if this thing was $299 or $350.. it would be a deal then! but sadly.. it is way overpriced.. just another toy for all you kids out there where daddy has more money than sense! Must be nice at times Imagine!
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11-14-2011,05:03 PM
only 24" and for $499.99 they must be joking.
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11-15-2011,04:30 PM

Originally Posted by
Player1
If a common sony 2011 3d tv set + sony best 3d lens looks like this (i have those) :

(THE ONLY THING YOU COULD SEE IN 3D IS THE OBJECTS IN CLOSE UP, THE REST IS CROSSTALK)
Then you ll be able to "see" your mate screen too.
All this is sony crap and marketing to sell old displays other way they couldnt.
Wake up , people, there is a crisis out there.
I hate to play Uncharted 3 in 3D.
I'm pretty sure that the 3D effects depends a lot on the video stream/source. So if something looks bad in 3D, then i think it is a bigger chance that this is because of how the 3D was made in the video stream and not because of the 3D TV/display. Or do you have an example on where the same 3D source looks much better on another TV than a Sony 2011 3DTV? 
How old are the displays that are used in this 24" monitor? Just wondering since you say it is old displays.

Originally Posted by
rAiN mAn 2o0o
most of the problems I am referring to are with sony bravia 720P tvs.. I have one.. my lil bro has a slightly newer model.. and my friend down the street has a slightly older one.. all are bravia 720p.. and ALL have problems with HDMI from PS3. Say No signal/ weak signal. ONLY WAY TO FIX IT IS TO SHUT OFF POWER TO TV AND PS3 FOR 15 MINUTES AND THEN RESCAN CHANNELS ON YOUR TV... MAJOR WASTE OF TIME EVERYTIME YOU WANNA PLAY PS3) ...have tried all sorts of diff cords.. its the tv.. at one time I read that you could update the firmware by USB stick from sony's official site.. but since they have removed the firmware ( want you to buy a new tv rather than have the one you already have work!.. gotta love it! not..)
also to be fair.. There is also ONE and only One old model of samsung tv that has the same problem.. my dad's tv.. not sure of the model number but it is 46 inch 120hz lcd 1080p samsung.. 5 or 6 years old..
after lots of research the problem I think is in the HDMI 1.2/1.3 handshake technology. Have tried diff cords.. several ps3's.. and every tV in my house has problems with it (shitty luck for me!) bluray players and xbox 360's all work fine!
Ok, i see, that is a pity :\ Have you tried to set the PS3 to fixed 720p resolution instead of automatic?

Originally Posted by
rAiN mAn 2o0o
and you said "competitive price".. 499 is a ripoff if you ask me! simulview or not! and you only get 1 pair of glasses.. so you have to spend almost 600 bucks to even use that feature! maybe if this thing was $299 or $350.. it would be a deal then! but sadly.. it is way overpriced.. just another toy for all you kids out there where daddy has more money than sense! Must be nice at times Imagine!
It depends on the quality of the monitors. I've seen 3D monitors with the same size for around $500 plus minus. I'm pretty sure that this Sony 3D thing isnt a TV at least. So compared to some of the 3D monitors around 23 - 27 inches, i think that it can be a competitive price
Last edited by yes159; 11-15-2011 at 05:36 PM.
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11-15-2011,06:33 PM
This monitor(it's not a tv) should be priced at $299. Only then would it be a good buy for those people who think a bedroom display can't be bigger than 24"(or whatever other excuses they have for buying a tiny display). Until this thing comes down to at least $350, people who buy it are getting ripped off... no matter what reason they have for needing it.
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