Article: [UPDATE] lv0 keys leak explanied by Scene Developers

[Goku1992]

Just like STKcardWS said Sony doesn't care. Not that many people have CFW and when new CFW comes around you need 3.55 anyway which defeats of the whole point of having recent CFW if you need CFW which "you couldn't get in the first place". I think that the main thing that gets me. I mean sure there is progress but it will be closed source at the end of the day because of the many people who really want CFW cant get it because they don't have a 2 year old firmware. There is hardware solutions to downgrading but how many people will do it or even trust a person over the internet to downgrade their console without even knowing them? If people didn't notice it by now that was Sony's main objective have 90% of PS3 owners on OFW and the rest on CFW. The Ps3 community is extremely small 9/10 people wont even know what the hell you are talking about if you say multiman backup manager.

Games sales will always profit AC3 and Blackops 2 will sell out. Sony couldn't care less if 1000 people play those games for free compared to the millions that are buying the game. Good chance those 1000 people wouldn't buy the game anyway since they are pirating it in the first place. (See my point) Sony only gotten anal about CFW was because Geohot released CFW on a recent firmware that everyone was on (100% users at the time) that's the only time Sony really got into it but if you seen lately have Sony really been effecting the scene past 3.60? (You really have to ask yourselves that question) No they moved on 2years ago... Sony didnt care what was TB doing and Sony doesn't care now even if devs figure out how to make 4.30 CFW

Like I said only 10% will be on it and Sony can easily ban the console making it only 8% (see the numbers decreasing?) People buy a brand new ps3 everyday but you cant say that about CFW can you... 80% are the same people who had CFW 2 years ago and 20% are just downgrading their ps3's. I hope people understand the logic if devs really want to do something in secrecy they can

It's not that Sony can't do anything about the lv0 keys... it's just they don't care only 10% of PS3 owners have CFW 90% are on OFW.

[indirect76]

I would be surprised if the number of CFW users was 1%. Anyway, lvl0 key could lead to a new CFW that can be installed on any PS3.

[Kayot]

That or Sony is currently preparing for damage control. It's also possible that Sony's trying to avoid the backlash they got last time they over reacted. It was a ton of bad press and PR.

[Blueprint88]

Amazing read! Reason no. 47 why I never forget to log on to PSX-SCENE atleast once daily.
Sony has slashed the price of PS3 like crazy over the past few years but we all know it is just lagging behind XBOX360 almost everywhere. A 360 in my country costs almost close to 30% more than a PS3 and we all know a PS3 is head and shoulders above the 360 in every single aspect. The only reason for them lagging behind is, there are a lot of guys waiting for consoles to be able to be jailbroken and not to mention we all know how much more a used 160 GB 3.55 cost than a brand new 360 GB ultra slim console with a PSMove bundle. If they are going to get down too hard and low on devs all they are going to end up is keep looking at a continuous drop in sales no matter how much ever they drop the price of the console. I wish at some point of time (may be after Ouya holds grip?) Sony will learn that homebrew devs are their real marketing managers.
If Sony keeps telling we want secure consoles to bag exclusive games, sooner or later they would come to know of their flawed strategy. More games will turn up only when there are more people to buy the consoles.

I am someone who has owned every console ever made (seriously) and currently have 2 X360 (one Jtag and One DVD Mod for online) and well as 2 PS3 (one phat 3.55 CFW and one slim OFW for online). I am not sure i really agree with you on the we all know PS3 is head and shoulders above comment. I say this because I think the X360 is holding up suprisingly well considering it is a year older technology and it uses only a 9GB DVD drive. I compare games a lot between the two consoles and I actually think that many 3rd party titles are slightly better on X360. I will say it depends but I thought Skyrim and Assasins Creed games were better on X360, throw in Mass Effect series as well. I attribute this to the fact the engines were developed first on X360 and have had more evolvement cycles and time. I thought LA Noire was better on PS3 and a few others as well. It is not difinitive which system is better. In additinional features, I think Kinnect has had far better uses/support than Move, and I think even though you have to pay for it Xbox Live is a better service than PSN. The TV/Media services are far more numerous for X360 as you have Comcast, Verizon and watch ESPN apps that give you a lot of content if you are a US cable subscriber. Not to mention the X360 works as a Media PC extender so you can hook it to a Win7 PC with a TV tuner and use it as a TV tuner and DVR as well as access your entire library on your PC of music and videos (you have to do some codec trickery). I use this extensively in my home and don't have to pay comcast for extra cable boxes. So I guess I am spoiled and like both consoles but I do have to speak up for the X360 because even though it is an old girl it is hanging in there quite well. When it comes to exclusives I guess both companies have been letting us down lately. The Drake games are tops on PS3 and Halo on X360 but other than that not too much exlusive content like there used to be in the old days, I think sony still wins this department though with Ratchet and Clank games, MGS4 and some of the exlusive PSN content like rocketbirds (awesome game) and journey. All in all I am happy I own both and live in the USA where we defintely get treated better price wise than most of the rest of the planet........

[Blueprint88]

I would be surprised if the number of CFW users was 1%. Anyway, lvl0 key could lead to a new CFW that can be installed on any PS3.

I sort of think you are right in that the number of CFW users is probably in the tens of thousands and the number of PS3 consoles is in the tens of millions. I just don't think people care to hack and pirate as much as they used to. Part of it is many more dolts (not meaning people here) own consoles these days and don't have the brains or ambition to hack, also kids today are spoiled and their parents just buy them whatever games they want so they don't feel the need to pirate. I have been a scene guy and modder since I was 12 years old and I am now 42. My parents didn't buy me crap, I bought my first Atari VCS and TRS-80 8-bit computer with my paper route money and couldn't afford extras like games. Things have changed a lot and I think the extraordinary efforts Sony and Microsoft make to defeat expliots is more about pride and pissing matches than it is about lost revenue. I have always believed you make great games and they sell lots of units....this is more true than ever with some games selling millions of copies per system. Not always true as one of my favorite games of all time ICO (ps2), I don't think ever sold that well even when wonderfully remade for PS3 people didn't buy it and Gravity Rush on Vita is awesome and no one seems to have bought it either....but in general piracy is not hurting the gaming world like say it has effected the music or movie industry in recent years. Some kids in my family who I have offered to mod their various systems turn me down.....I almost feel like an old skool dino but hey I still greatly enjoy hacking and modding for myself so until the world goes all digital distribution and DRMs everything to death atleast I have that!

[l_oliveira]

The 360 vs PS3 debacle boils down to programming kits (development tools) and OS architecture. XBOX360 have lead on this because it shares the same development environment as an PC/Windows game. So obviously companies that make PC games will "feel at home" in the XBOX360. Just look the games that "are better on XBXO360" they're ALL Windows games which are better on a Windows PC than they are on a XBOX360.

In the end, compare an XBOX360 to a PS3 is like compare a apple to a orange. Both will be good for you but each have a different taste. :P

[walsid]

Just like STKcardWS said Sony doesn't care. Not that many people have CFW and when new CFW comes around you need 3.55 anyway which defeats of the whole point of having recent CFW if you need CFW which "you couldn't get in the first place". I think that the main thing that gets me. I mean sure there is progress but it will be closed source at the end of the day because of the many people who really want CFW cant get it because they don't have a 2 year old firmware. There is hardware solutions to downgrading but how many people will do it or even trust a person over the internet to downgrade their console without even knowing them? If people didn't notice it by now that was Sony's main objective have 90% of PS3 owners on OFW and the rest on CFW. The Ps3 community is extremely small 9/10 people wont even know what the hell you are talking about if you say multiman backup manager.

Games sales will always profit AC3 and Blackops 2 will sell out. Sony couldn't care less if 1000 people play those games for free compared to the millions that are buying the game. Good chance those 1000 people wouldn't buy the game anyway since they are pirating it in the first place. (See my point) Sony only gotten anal about CFW was because Geohot released CFW on a recent firmware that everyone was on (100% users at the time) that's the only time Sony really got into it but if you seen lately have Sony really been effecting the scene past 3.60? (You really have to ask yourselves that question) No they moved on 2years ago... Sony didnt care what was TB doing and Sony doesn't care now even if devs figure out how to make 4.30 CFW

Like I said only 10% will be on it and Sony can easily ban the console making it only 8% (see the numbers decreasing?) People buy a brand new ps3 everyday but you cant say that about CFW can you... 80% are the same people who had CFW 2 years ago and 20% are just downgrading their ps3's. I hope people understand the logic if devs really want to do something in secrecy they can

It's not that Sony can't do anything about the lv0 keys... it's just they don't care only 10% of PS3 owners have CFW 90% are on OFW.

I agree.

[Elle]

Maybe they're hoping to crack bootldr or the new fw update method which is one of the major changes made after 3.55 was exploited.

As a reminder, bootldr/metldr themselves can’t be exploited, but because of the keys we have recovered we can make them load anything we want, nullifying whatever security they provide.

[SkyNet]

PS3 3.70 Appldr Keys Surface, 3.65-4.30 Appldr Keys in Development - Page 1 - PS3 NEWS - PlayStation 3 News - PS3 Hacks - PS3 CFW

New keys leaked....

[QSXWDC]

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**** THE ****ING BITCHES