Does anyone have the slightest clue on how TB make newer games work without the keys?

Well usually either people think dev/debug eboots or keys. Usually the argument for dev eboots is that they're all FSELF, i and a few other people have debunked this theory as FSELF's dont have to be debug, they can be retail. I used to modify eboots for CFW 3.55 (before deank's eboot mod) and one of the steps in the process was changing the retail eboot into an FSELF in the SCE header.

However in defense of the dev eboot theory, when I was playing Deus Ex i had weird things happen. My game would crash and my install data would go corrupt when i reinstalled the new install data would read DEV in the title. So being like someone else mentioned that it takes them so long that it might be harder than everyone thinks, I agree. But there's a possibility which i havent heard anyone mention is that they're using MORE THAN ONE METHOD to crack the eboots.

Also im kind of glad they're secretive about it by now if everyone had this knowledge of how they're doing it, that would mean Sony would have it too and thus put a stop to it. Being TB is releasing games that require current sony FW means sony doesnt know how they're doing it either or they do know but dont care enough because the info isn't available to everyone.

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Originally Posted by PatrickBatman

Well usually either people think dev/debug eboots or keys. Usually the argument for dev eboots is that they're all FSELF, i and a few other people have debunked this theory as FSELF's dont have to be debug, they can be retail. I used to modify eboots for CFW 3.55 (before deank's eboot mod) and one of the steps in the process was changing the retail eboot into an FSELF in the SCE header.

However in defense of the dev eboot theory, when I was playing Deus Ex i had weird things happen. My game would crash and my install data would go corrupt when i reinstalled the new install data would read DEV in the title. So being like someone else mentioned that it takes them so long that it might be harder than everyone thinks, I agree. But there's a possibility which i havent heard anyone mention is that they're using MORE THAN ONE METHOD to crack the eboots.

Also im kind of glad they're secretive about it by now if everyone had this knowledge of how they're doing it, that would mean Sony would have it too and thus put a stop to it. Being TB is releasing games that require current sony FW means sony doesnt know how they're doing it either or they do know but dont care enough because the info isn't available to everyone.

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This.

I also like the fact that they are secretive BUT my biggest concern why did they not release like blockbuster games yet like FFX -12 you know major games like that.

Cant they not make an eboot for those games? Also how involved is team Duplex with them I know that they are affiliated

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Originally Posted by Darkman-PSG

This.

I also like the fact that they are secretive BUT my biggest concern why did they not release like blockbuster games yet like FFX -12 you know major games like that.

Cant they not make an eboot for those games? Also how involved is team Duplex with them I know that they are affiliated

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I also would LOVE to see a fix for ff13 2!!!

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Originally Posted by Darkman-PSG

This.

I also like the fact that they are secretive BUT my biggest concern why did they not release like blockbuster games yet like FFX -12 you know major games like that.

Cant they not make an eboot for those games? Also how involved is team Duplex with them I know that they are affiliated

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They're affiliated? I seem to remember Duplex taking shots in the Alice Madness Return NFO "This Pack includes patched files that allow you to play this game on CFW 3.55 - no silly dongle required because DUPLEX doesn't charge you for playing backups! On top of it we provide you a cracked DLC Pack containing the original American McGee's Alice."

I'm going to venture to say FFx12 is a bit harder to crack than say Eyepet and Friends, Im sure it depends on number of files the game has especially .bin, .self, .sprx which are all encrypted. Probably also why you havent seen them crack any trilogy games yet (like Splinter cell) thats at least 3 eboot.bins plus whatever .sprx and .self files are on there etc.

EDIT: I found a pic I took of the Dues Ex dev thing. Here it is: Attachment 33272 It also made it read Deus Ex 3 for whatever reason.

I hope so true blue is the only thing that is keeping PS3 relevant

IMO, 2 possibilities:

1) They do have keys (very low probability, otherwise there would be eboots for almost every new game, and they would appear almost instantly after releases - with keys it's just a matter of minutes to resign any game);

2) They have (or had) some inside sources for usigned files.

I think it's number 2.
Well, there is another possibility that they discovered some completely new way which doesn't require keys at all, but it's quite a fantastic probability.

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I also like the fact that they are secretive BUT my biggest concern why did they not release like blockbuster games yet like FFX -12 you know major games like that.

Cant they not make an eboot for those games? Also how involved is team Duplex with them I know that they are affiliated

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They simply can't find unsigned/dev eboot for it :)

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Originally Posted by greyest

IMO, 2 possibilities:

1) They do have keys (very low probability, otherwise there would be eboots for almost every new game, and they would appear almost instantly after releases - with keys it's just a matter of minutes to resign any game);

2) They have (or had) some inside sources for usigned files.

I think it's number 2.
Well, there is another possibility that they discovered some completely new way which doesn't require keys at all, but it's quite a fantastic probability.



They simply can't find unsigned/dev eboot for it :)

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Well like i said i think there using at least 2 different ways maybe several. My dues ex was prolly a dev eboot. But if they were all dev eboots all of the games would be pretty glitchy as its an unfinished eboot basically. Plus the fact that they somehow cracked Skyrim 1.02 update its prolly NPDRM but Duplex hasnt cracked any updates so its prolly different than the NPDRM (PSN) duplex is cracking. I also dont know if theres is such a thing NPDRM dev updates.

So my rhetorical question is if they're using dev eboots entirely what is the Skyrim 1.02 update patch?

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Originally Posted by PatrickBatman

Well like i said i think there using at least 2 different ways maybe several. My dues ex was prolly a dev eboot. But if they were all dev eboots all of the games would be pretty glitchy as its an unfinished eboot basically. Plus the fact that they somehow cracked Skyrim 1.02 update its prolly NPDRM but Duplex hasnt cracked any updates so its prolly different than the NPDRM (PSN) duplex is cracking. I also dont know if theres is such a thing NPDRM dev updates.

So my rhetorical question is if they're using dev eboots entirely what is the Skyrim 1.02 update patch?

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How do most of the games play on TB is it smooth?

The only two games I've had an issue with is Child of Eden, Assassin's Creed: Revelations and Skyrim, but I think we need TB to patch the updates, perhaps the game's "themselves" are the issue, and not necessarily TB. All other TB games play fine including prior TB games.

I think TB team should provide support in patching game updates so we have a smoother experience with some games that require these updates to play better.

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Originally Posted by Jay-Jay

The only two games I've had an issue with is Child of Eden, Assassin's Creed: Revelations and Skyrim, but I think we need TB to patch the updates, perhaps the game's "themselves" are the issue, and not necessarily TB. All other TB games play fine including prior TB games.

I think TB team should provide support in patching game updates so we have a smoother experience with some games that require these updates to play better.

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Child of Eden is definitely a problem with their eboot fix. Everyone has the exact same problem no matter the setup (ext, int w and w/o disc etc) Unless like 7 people used the exact same rip which isnt the case cause i know at least a few people used the original disc to rip. I had ACR freeze on me a few times but i finished it not a huge deal. Still havent played Skyrim yet, would you say its less or more glitchy with 1.02 update J?