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Originally Posted by Ichijoe
Look let me S P E L L T H I S O U T F O R Y O U !!
YOUR CECH-30xx* IS NEITHER DOWNGRADABLE OR HACKABLE**!! You the only One here trolling pal!
Your b!tching and moaning ain't helping. I'm hardly bragging, you asked a question without giving anyone a "Full Picture" of your situation in the hopes of hearing an answer that you'd like. Well guess what IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY! Had you said from the off that you had in fact a 30xx Model. I doubt anyone here would have given you an answer any different to the One I just gave you. I even told you WHY this was so in my last Post!
And if you think that an ODE cracks the PS3 in any feasible way a CFW does then you need to start reading some more.
I'll try my best to explain to the best of my knowledge... (Others are free to call me out on my BS!)...
With CFW you basically OWN the Machine. CFW such as ReBug allow you to run OtherOS++ on Machines (such as my Slim), that originally never had the capacity to do so! With CFW you can run both S0NYs PS2 and PSP Emulators on your PS3. With Homebrew Applications such as Showtime Media Player, you can now play the stuff that you would only get Corrupted File Errors with the Stock Player. Multiman besides playing Backups can also change the BlueRay Region Codes (i.e. DVD Region Codes) So you can watch foreign Movies on your PS3. And this is just scratching the tip of the Ice Burg...
NONE OF WHICH YOU CAN CURRENTLY DO WITH AN ODE! The only thing an ODE can do is to make, and play Backups of your Physical Games Library. THAT'S IT!! Perhaps things ~might~ move along and change... FOR NOW THAT'S IT THOUGH! Perhaps it'll be good enough for some People, but let's not confuse this with being in the same League, or much less the same Ballpark as CFW. 'cause its not. BUT IN YOUR CASE THIS IS THE OPTION YOU HAVE! Besides tracking down and buying an older more downgradable PS3, and then perhaps selling your 3000 to recover you outlay.
*xx = Just the Region Code. i.e. 00 Jap, 01, USA/CAN, 03 UK/IRE, 04 EMEA etc... etc... You could have the magical "69" at the end.. It wouldn't change the fact that you still had a 3000 Model...
** Words mean things! And in this instance "Downgradable", and "Hackable" refer to the ability of installing a CFW onto the PS3.
AND NOTHING ELSE!
While its also true that you could "Hack" a PS3 with an ODE... You still could not downgrade it or, install any CFW onto it. And you will never enjoy the benefits of having a fully hacked CFW PS3...
If you wish to start a pedantic argument over whither or not an ODE constitutes full on Hacking... Or not! Is not an argument that myself I wish to engage in.
P.s. I hate Internet acronyms HTF? lol...
Ok While you are correct in your anger. Sh-- does happen! There was a time before the lvl0 Keys were made Public and, OFW3.55 was the absolute death on CFW. As I gathered only recently it could in fact be as high as OFW4.30. AS LONG AS YOUR PS3 HAS THE OLD METLDR AND LVL0 KEYS!! **I'm sorry to say that your 3000 has the newer stuff on it!** So although its a slim chance of it ever happening. The new Metlodr, and lvl0 Keys might get found again. Then again they may never be found! Such as life.
As to the "Differences" between CFW and ODEs... SEE ABOVE!
In short anyone you'd ask here would tell you that CFW>ODE.... (e.g. CFW is ALWAYS better then ODE)...
Last edited by Ichijoe; 08-25-2013 at 09:33 AM.
I didn't mean to offend you in anyway .. Its just that all this shit is so complex and so confusing .. When i think i know enf , i just realize that am at bottom .. And as matter of fact obviously i know lesser than u ... All that aside , i don't care if with ODE i can play dvds or have apps and wallpapers, all i care about is that CAN I RUN CRACKED GAMES ?? Just like jb.d ps3 .. Or i still need to buy original games at $59 and then make its back up?? Plz clear this little confusion ... And yeah my Ps3 is CECH - 3001 Canadian
Btw HTF means How The F*ck
No its actually quite simple.... Your PS3 CAN NOT BE DOWNGRADED (i.e. to 3.55), and it CAN NOT RUN CFW.
Originally Posted by Qandeel
Anyone, or anything that is telling you otherwise is quit frankly full of it! No matter what you might have seen on Google, or YouTube telling you to take their crappy BS Serveries to get hold of their "Magical Voodoo Shtick" which will then allow anyone to install CFW on any PS3 IS TOTAL UTTER BULLSH--!
If any such "Voodoo Shtick" ever actually existed, then you'd have found a more equitable answer.... Sadly however there isn't One.
Now can you install some additional Hardware like an Optical Disc Emulator? (i.e. ODE), yes you can.
But can an ODE do everything that someone else can do in CFW. No it can't, and no it probably won't be able to either.
As for being able to run *.ISOs, well this Tech is still so new. And, you wouldn't be the first One to ask about such compatibility between these ODEs. Only Time will tell. If its any consolation I think they will be compatible across the board, and if not I'm sure there will be converters made to switch from whatever format to another.
As for cracked Games? What cracks are you talking about? There are only ROM Rips given that you can only run offical Games on a BlueRay Drive thats inside the PS3, pretty much is the Security. Just like it was with the PSP. If you think about it. ~assuming you knew about the PSP~ So the closest thing to a "Crack" would be an EBOOT Patch for CFW3.55. Again you wouldn't / shouldn't need to have be concerned with all that. As you'll already be on the latest OFW! Which is the only true advantage of having an ODE.
So long story short can you play "Backups" on an ODE? ...Yes you can!... But, that's about ALL YOU CAN DO!
Can you run Multiman No... Can you run PS2 Classics or PSP Remasters... Again for now no... But if you have the patience of a Saint to wait for a +50Gb Download for (Insert *.ISO HERE), then yeah knock yourself out!
So in Short i am doomed. All those servey bastards give ppl false hope , such b*tches ... And one thing , with ODE i can Run pirated games but not multiman or other facilities?? Right ?
Originally Posted by Ichijoe
Well thanks man for all that info i really appreciate it ...
if i can run games free with ODE ... I will probably wait for full crack ( if it was made possible in this era) ...
...For you.... Sadly you are a 100% correct! That really IS ~how it is~
Originally Posted by Qandeel
Sadly like I said before the only reason why anybody even has CFW to begin with, is because S0NY could not even code a simple working Random Number Generator to protect their Private Keys. Which meant that EVERY PS3 UP TILL THAT TIME ~ca. early 2011 (e.g. CECH-25xx's), were, and are! Vulnerable to attack! Because both the metldr, and lvl0 Keys which were both permanently fixed down to the Root Hardware level. A place where not even S0NY could alter it without breaking the entire ecosystem 'round the PS3! Have since became known to the World+Dog. Anyone with a CECH-25xx (OR LOWER!) can either downgrade back to 3.55 or in other cases just install a higher CFW... Up to OFW4.30. If all what I understand about this is correct!
Upshot of all this is, IS IF YOU HAVE A HACKABLE PS3.... YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE A HACKABLE PS3! S0NY can update their Firmware from now till the end of time, it would never change this fact!
So S0NY had to release newer PS3 post 2011 Q2 (i.e. "1B" To use S0NYs DATE CODE) that have a newer and (to us), unknown metlodr, and lvl0 Keys. Such as some of the youngest 25xx's, your 30xx and the current line of Super Slims the 40xx...
To make it short those Models went straight back to Square One! Back when the PS3 was hailed as the best secured System ever made! because this time they managed to find someone decent enough to write the Code...
That is why you can NOT do much save run an ODE on your PS3...
Now you can do as you will, wait it out.. Pray for a new hack... ~It could happen in the same way that I could hit the lotto!~
But, if I were you I'd probably ditch the current PS3 on Fleabay, for about the same price as someone who was selling a hacked PS3 w/CFW3.55. IIRC it should run you in the neighborhood of $250.00(USD) to $300.00(USD). Looking at Fleabay right now... It looks like you'd be taking a decent hit on your PS3. as from what I can see they're fetching between $150.00(USD) to around $200.00(USD), with some brave souls asking for more.
But again I think you should also consider the fact that if you had a downgradable PS3 that the E3 Downgrader would still set you back about a $130.00(USD) [For the Limited Edition]* and, those ODEs ain't much cheaper then that. So if you'd calculate this into your costs you'd still come off if only slightly better then by just sticking to what you have, and installing an ODE. You may also want to check this Sites BST Buy/Sell/Trade Board (as well as those from other Websites!), as you may very well find even BETTER BARGAINS there then on Fleabay.
Then you have the option to either keep the current 3000 for PSN, or to then sell it to recoup some Cash.
IMHO I'd give this option some real thought. The best part about it is if you get a PS3 that was already "cracked" then you wouldn't need to worry about having to do it yourself.
*The Normal Flasher ONLY would be more like $90.00(USD) and a CECH-2001A (VERY HACKABLE) Model PS3 would also set you back 'round a $150~ish Dollars. But, you'd still have to get it downgraded so don't be too put off by the sticker shock of the CFW flashed PS3s you'd find there.
Last edited by Ichijoe; 08-26-2013 at 07:28 AM.
Thnx alot for you honest detailed opinion...
A guy near my place is selling me a 120gb ps320xx (non-hacked) at the price of $220 , while shopkeepers tell me that they would buy my at $200 ... I heard some things about this 20xx Hackable ps3 that it have many problems, like heating up very fastly e.t.c
If you can really get $200.00(USD) for your PS3 now... MY ADVICE IS TO TAKE IT AND RUN! Barring that, assuming this place is like GameStop or EB, see if they'll just trade you 1:1 for it? JUST REMEMBER TO FORMAT YOUR HDD TO WIPE ANY TRACE OF YOURSELF OFF OF THAT PS3 FIRST!
Originally Posted by Qandeel
Now as for buying some guys PS3, I assume you'd know him or at least get to see the PS3 before dropping your cash on it. Which alone may well be worth it. But, you should know that 2001a are going 'round (non-hacked!) on eBay for 'round $160.00(USD). So I think he maybe asking a bit to much... I guess it depends on what hes selling it with! But for the System ALONE its too much!
Now here's the rub you can either buy a stock 2001a. Which IS HACKABLE for ca.~ $160.00(USD) and rest in cold comfort that it can be downgraded... Or you can drop +$50.00 of your own Cash on top of your PS3 income, and just get a PS3 that is already been hacked for you. Given that the cheapest E3 NOR Flasher will set you back by a good $90.00(USD). This pretty much works out to about the same +/- $0.00(USD) in the end. The only real difference is if you decide to do this yourself then you obviously get to keep the NOR Flasher. Which has other uses besides downgrading. The flip side of that is then you have to spend a lot of time getting to grips with your PS3, then you currently are. There is a perfectly good HOWTO that goes to great lengths to describe the method on how One downgrades their PS3. The problem is it was written over Year ago, and a lot of things changed since then. I'd recommended you read the parts going from
"Just Downgrade With E3" ~ "Verifying the Dumps" <- DEADLY IMPORTANT SECTION THAT!!
At which point I'd only start paying attention as to how the Switches needed to be set from there on out. As I would recommended everyone to use the latest BwE NOR Validator to patch there Firmware, and then flash ONLY THAT RESULT back to the PS3!
At which point its pretty much job done! Rebuild the thing and use whatever downgrader Habib, ReBug or Rogero, to get back to CFW3.55. Then install a proper CFW3.55 (to reset the syscon from 999 back to 355), so you can then finally install Rebug 4.46REX.
If I made that sound easy... Well it is and it isn't you have to vusually check all the points in the Firmware before you can assume that its valid, and that takes a sh--load of time to do! If your not really prepared to put in that effort or you just don't trust yourself. Then like I said you'd be able to get one already done for you off ebay for about the same price. Then you can spare yourself all these headaches and just enjoy your "Cracked Games" lol....
Sorry sorry , my bad .. He actually have CECHL04 ... He just told me about storage that it is 120gb (he had some external memory with it too) .. His original HDD is 80gb ...
While they look nicer.... Phats burn more Electricity then the Slims A LOT MORE!, the same could be said for the Super Slim vs. the Slim.
Originally Posted by Qandeel
And in any case he IMHO hes asking to much for it. 'cause $220 +/- $30.00(USD) More would score you a Fully hacked 2001, 2101 PS3 off of ebay. So I'd give this a miss.
PROTIP: just keep watching ebay for a few Days till you find something. Some n00p was posting ads to his ebay auction last night probably against the rules to do so. but, he was selling a his cfw4.46 ReBug PS3 for $200.00(USD) as the "buy it now" price. Needless to say he sold it fairly quickly. But, that's the kind "of deal" you need to be looking for...
Ps... The "04" thing I was telling you about before??? You remember how I was telling you it had something to with which region the PS3 in question was sold in? I'll point it out again, cause if you are in the US... YOU WANT AN "01"!! While 99.9% of the Games on the PS3 may not care what Region you are in... You couldn't play your Movies Region "A" on it, as "04" being Euorpe, Middle East Africa (e.g. EMEA), all use Region "B" for BlueRay. So that would be another strike against that Machine. For being foreign...