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    cooperdk-PSG is offline Registered User
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    It is possible to find 9.5 mm tall hdd's but they are expensive. Still possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cooperdk View Post
    Bullshit! Of corse there is a performance gain. It is a basic S-ATA hard drive and the controller uses standard interfacing, I guarantee you, making 7200rmp faster than 5400. Precisely 1800rpm faster. Or 20-25%, give or take.
    That aside, Seagate is among the best you can get. Samsung uses a no-name manufacturer, do you really believe yourself what you're saying? I've worked with IT for 15 yrs and am amazed of the ignorance
    At any rate, Seagate offers 5 yrs warranty on their drives. AFAIK, Samsung doesn't give ANY.

    BTW there was a Toshitba drive in my 120gb Slim. Changed it to a 7200rpm Seagate and it is FASTER.
    The hard drive read speed in the PS3 is firmware controlled, no matter how fast the hard drive is, the data will not read or write faster than its set limit. In everything else, it would make a huge difference. Before you assume that someone has less experience than you and start throwing around numbers, do some research, and ask if the person your calling bullshit on has any experience. I've been in IT for 13 years, and I've been following the PS3 scene since before GeoHot exploited OtherOS. This issue was raised back then. Even with a faster hard drive, benchmarks were identical in OtherOS, and data read/write rates on GameOS while jailbroken are identical between drive speeds using any ftp or file transfer method. I didn't want to believe it either, so I tried it. There's no benchmark program so I did it the hard way. I took a 4GB file and transfered it, both usb and ftp (from a computer with dual gigabit lan teaming on an all gigabit network, via ethernet cable, not wireless), both to and from, with both a 80gb 5400rpm and a 80gb 7200rpm. No difference.

    I have had more seagate hard drives fail in both my own computers and friends/customers computers than any other brand. I would take a friggin western digital green variable speed hard drive over a seagate any day. I have about 5 bad seagate drives at home right now, and seagate won't warranty them either for lack of original receipt or because they were oem installed hard drives.

    As far as samsung, their hard drives have a great reputation for being an amazing speed and quality for their buck. They use larger platters, storing data closer together and greatly increasing read/write rates. I have 3 samsung spinpoint f1 500gb hard drives in raid0 at home, with an average read speed of 255MB/s and write speed of 275MB/s (yes, the write speed is faster). I've benched mine against a friend of mine that has 2 intel 120gb SSDs in his computer with almost an identical build, and beaten him by about 15% in everything except random seek time. That being said, you think a SSD would make the PS3 faster? No, because the read/write speed is limited.

    Samsung offers the same 5yr warranty everyone else offers. I know because I've had to RMA one. It was a bulk drive purchase and they waranteed it same as retail, ASAIK their policy since they game me no flac at all about it. It was also a much more plesant and less BS call than any warranty that I've had to use on any company, including EVGA (known for their customer service and RMA ease).

    I don't care if you think your PS3 feels faster with that hard drive in it, until you run some sort of benchmark on it, you shouldn't be talking about it being faster cause its your perception. That's extremely ignorant of you. You dumped a bunch of money into something you want to think is faster, so you perceive it faster. And even if it was a little faster, the same result could be accomplished installing a new and unfragmented 5400rpm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blazie151 View Post
    I have had more seagate hard drives fail in both my own computers and friends/customers computers than any other brand. I would take a friggin western digital green variable speed hard drive over a seagate any day. I have about 5 bad seagate drives at home right now, and seagate won't warranty them either for lack of original receipt or because they were oem installed hard drives.
    Agreed! Seagate HDs are a POS. I have 3 dead ones on my desk right now that died in a year or less. I will never buy one again.
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    Lol. And that guy that says he's been an IT for 15 years backs 'em. ROFL. Every techie I know spits on seagate. You can tell how much they suck off all the negative reviews everywhere they're sold online. I would have bought the first sata3 2tb if it wasn't a seagate, lol. I'll rock my samsungs and smoke benchmarks of velociraptors when evenly matched, and beat SSDs when I'm running just 1 more. So much cheaper, so much faster. 500gb platters ftw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cooperdk View Post
    Bullshit! Of corse there is a performance gain. It is a basic S-ATA hard drive and the controller uses standard interfacing, I guarantee you, making 7200rmp faster than 5400. Precisely 1800rpm faster. Or 20-25%, give or take.
    That aside, Seagate is among the best you can get. Samsung uses a no-name manufacturer, do you really believe yourself what you're saying? I've worked with IT for 15 yrs and am amazed of the ignorance
    At any rate, Seagate offers 5 yrs warranty on their drives. AFAIK, Samsung doesn't give ANY.

    BTW there was a Toshitba drive in my 120gb Slim. Changed it to a 7200rpm Seagate and it is FASTER.
    Shut the **** up idiot, 7200rpm drives are NOT faster than 5400rpm drives on the ps3. The ps3 is PROGRAMMED to have 5400rpm max. Even if you come up with 100000000rpm drives, that won't change shit. Go educate yourself on these matters. Seagate is nor a great nor a bad brand, Samsung are just fine.
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    Hey, we've opened a new PS3 Jailbreak community and looking for moderators at www.ps3jailbreaking.com! Check it out
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    so can i use an external 1tb for my ps3 to use an internal?
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    ok..EVR1 JUS SHUT DA FUK UP..STOP FIGHTING...and help me with this shit...i want to buy a 2.5 inch sata hdd from samsung 500gb.....there are 3 types of buffer memory...8mb..16mb...32mb...which one shud i get for the ps3?

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    Actually you will find that there is a speed difference between 5400 and 7200 rpm drives on the PS3. Take a look at this old post/review:

    http://www.gamepro.com/article/featu...-speed-matter/

    Given that before they were only doing speed tests on demos and mp3 it was hard to tell much of a difference. Now we can back up games internally like MGS4 that are over 30GB, with the demo.dat file being ~13GB, so load times will be faster.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazza View Post
    Actually you will find that there is a speed difference between 5400 and 7200 rpm drives on the PS3. Take a look at this old post/review:

    http://www.gamepro.com/article/featu...-speed-matter/

    Given that before they were only doing speed tests on demos and mp3 it was hard to tell much of a difference. Now we can back up games internally like MGS4 that are over 30GB, with the demo.dat file being ~13GB, so load times will be faster.


    ~Western Digital Scorpio Black 750GB 7200RPM~
    That much of a difference can be negated by the inconsistant nature of the speed test that was ran, and human error. The new drive was freshly formatted and not fragmented, the old needed a defrag. The new one was larger, making the files packed closer together and denser, due to larger platters. That would reduce random seek time when attempting to load lots of small files at once, and potentially speed it up a little just because the hard drive was larger and not fragmented (and would not have an effect on files that are 13GB, like MGS4).

    The simple fact is 2-fold:

    1. The PS3 has its hard drive read rate programed in the firmware, we can tell this because if it wasn't we'd have transfer rates of 80MB/s+ and every PS3 website online would reccommend upgrading the hard drive speed. Not the 12-15MB/s that everyone is experiencing.

    2. Even if it did make a difference, it would be less than 5%, which is negated as being within test parameters.

    As far as the hard drive choice of the OP, your putting too much thought into it. Grab the cheapest 750GB or 500GB laptop hard drive you can find, and you'll be fine.
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