Wireless pad for PS2
I got two questions, I'd like to buy a wireless pad for PS2. I know there're some of them but I'm not sure which are the best ones. Do any one know good wireless pad for PS2? Second questions is, I've read that Scart and S-video cable improves image quality towards standard AV cable. Is this noticeable only on HDTV or on SDTV too? Which cables would be best for 23' Thomson SDTV. Any one? (Dlanor, where are you?)
Originally Posted by shadovraven
I just registered on this site today and saw your post about the wireless controller for the ps2. I have a Pelican brand one I got at Walmart and I find it to be great. The batteries last for months and it also has dual-shock capability.
As for the cable question, I am not sure, I am still using standard AV cable. Maybe I will also look into the scart cable.
i own this one:
and i am very happy with it. its the best wireless controller i ever used.
I prefer the Logitech cordless action controller.
I have to agree, Logitech cordless action controller looks pretty good but I'm having problems finding it in my country and I think it'll be expensive. I might as well look for Logitech Cordless Precision but I'm not sure this controller is available for PS2, most of sites says it's for PS3 only.
Haven't asians come up by now with PS3/Wii/Xbox360 to PS2 controller adapter ?
My SDTV doesn't have s-video input ( it does have s-video option in TV preferences ) but I've seen a S-video to Scart converters, it does look like this: https://www.krcs.co.uk/images/librar...indy_35570.jpg Using this converter along with S-video cable and TV with scart input only will let me get better quality than scart cable itself?
I haven't tried them yet but I bought two new Logitech PS2 wireless controllers at Gamestop for $12.99 (original price is $19.99). You might want to call your local store to see if they have some.
I also bought a used Katana wireless controller. Haven't tried that one yet.
That depends on what you mean by "scart cable". The stuff that often comes with a PS", consisting of a SCART connector with 3 RCA connectors in its back, to which you connect a cable with PS2 specific connector at one end and 3 RCA connectors at the other, is completely and utterly worthless.
Originally Posted by shadovraven
That cable, even though it uses a SCART connector to connect to the TV set, in fact uses a single wire to carry HSync+VSync+Luminance+Chroma_R+Chroma_B with the other two wires being used only for sound. This composite video signal is the second worst video connection method ever !!!
The worst of all is when you apply the same composite video signal to an RF modulator connected to the TV's antenna input.
S-Video improves slightly upon a fully composite signal, using two wires for video and separating out the syncs, but the colour information is still supplied in essentially the same form as before, mixed together on a quadrature modulated carrier frequency. This still gives very bad colour separation, though it is slightly better than the single-wire method.
But a real SCART/RGB connection is far superior to all of the above, as here each of the three colour signals for Red, Green, and Blue base colours is connected from the PS2 GS chip to the TV colour inputs by a separate wire, with other separate wires carrying the sync signals and audio signals of course. The difference in quality seen when switching between any composite signal (even S-Video) and a full RGB signal is very clear and significant. The only drawback is that this direct connection has lesser delays than the composite-modulated signal, which leads to the effective display sliding a bit to the left on the physical screen. But that is normally no problem on a modern LCD widescreen TV, though it can be irritating with a traditional CRT TV screen. But programs such as GSM (GS Modeselector) can fix this by recentering the video mode.
To answer your specific question, this higher quality RGB connection is NOT possible by adding any SCART adaptor to an existing composite or S-Video signal. It must be a fully connected RGB signal all the way from the connector inserted in your PS2 to the SCART connector inserted into the TV.
The best TV connection method of all for a PS2 is without a doubt a proper 'Component cable' (not to be confused with the rotten 'Composite' stuff), of the same type often used with a PS3 (the one I use with my PS2 was made for the PS3). For most modern widescreen TVs it is only a component cable that can be used for the newer HDTV video modes (480p 576p 720p and 1080i) which some PS2 games and homebrews can use. Using the other connection methods mentioned above will then only allow traditional SDTV video modes to be used (meaning standard PAL and NTSC).
Best regards: dlanor
Thanks for precisely explanation of those terms Dlanor, I was a bit confused because most of shops and sites claim s-video cable to be superior over RGB.
I'd like to buy RGB cable then but how I'll know which RGB cable is the best one? I assume some of them are different in terms of quality, could you suggest me some brand? I got another question though, my SDTV doesn't display NTSC signal properly, colors are reverted, I can see only half of the image. I'm using swap magic to display NTSC games in PAL but video and audio in some of them are not synchronized. I've seen some devices and cables that are converting signal from NTSC to PAL. I'd like to know if I can get rid of the lack of synchronization in games, not properly displayed aspect and reverted colors just by using this cable or converter? Can RGB cable do that?
Thanks for the help.
EDIT: It seems like my TV doesn't support RGB (couldn't find nothing about it in manual ) but when I'm connecting my Digital TV using decoder it can display RGB. I'm confused.