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    Is it just me who has realized that mark22 opens one pointless thread after another?

    ontopic: I can play PS1 games too on my ps3 slim.
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    i just want to know if it is possible to play ps1 copys
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark22 View Post
    echibob
    i just want to know if it is possible to play ps1 copys
    Quite simply..... no.
    I DON'T have an Xbox!!!
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    I had no freaking clue the PS3 could play PSX games. That is awesome! I have so many PSX games that I have been wanting to play but I don't have my PSX hooked up anymore.

    I really need to get back in the habbit of reading manuals!

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    If the PS3 can play PSX games, why do we need an emulator??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ihaveathumb View Post
    I had no freaking clue the PS3 could play PSX games. That is awesome! I have so many PSX games that I have been wanting to play but I don't have my PSX hooked up anymore.

    I really need to get back in the habbit of reading manuals!

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    If the PS3 can play PSX games, why do we need an emulator??
    we don't
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    ----- re: needing a PS1 emulator
    Quote Originally Posted by echibob View Post
    we don't
    That would be correct only if the PS3 was able to satisfactorily play most PS1 games from original discs, which it is not, at least not in the European region.

    All games whose release discs used CD subchannel content for copy protection methods will fail to boot on a PS3, since the BD drive is unable to read the abnormal CD subchannel data used on those game discs. Instead it will 'pretend' to read it, but instead produce error-corrected subchannel data, which the game will reject as invalid. The game will then either voluntarily crash or go into an eternal loop. The end result for the user is the same either way, as it is then impossible to play the game.

    This problem is worse for European gamers than for US gamers, since the subchannel protection was often added after US and/or Japanese releases when the same game was finally released in the European region as well. Thus the US FF8 and FF9 releases will work from disc on the PS3 while the European releases of the same games fail, as described above. And make no mistake about it, the same problem does exist for several US releases too.

    Another problem with the PS1 compatibility is the absolutely horrible huge black borders surrounding the effective PS1 game screen area with all of the games I've tested. Possibly that too is something which works better for US users, since their games will be designed for NTSC video modes of 224 or 448 pixel's height, as opposed to the PAL games that use 256 or 512 pixel's screen height. That greater height of the PAL screens may be what causes the failure of the PS3 to scale them properly, so as to avoid those huge borders.

    These problems might not exist for PSN-bought PS1 games (I wouldn't know for sure as I have none), since these probably have been adapted for optimum results on a PS3. But then we are no longer talking about compatibility to original PS1 games...


    Summary:
    If I am ever to play my favourite PS1 games on my PS3 it will have to be through an emulator of some kind. That could possibly be a modification of the one already built into the PS3. But the current implementation is not able to do it.

    Best regards: dlanor
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    Ever heard of a search button?
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsMoeyy View Post
    Ever heard of a search button?
    Was that in reference to the post immediately above yours, or to some earlier post ?
    Either way I don't follow your meaning.

    In what way could site searching eliminate the design flaw of the BD drive, which makes it impossible to use it for reading the CD subchannels commonly used for copy protection on PS1 game CD discs ?

    The fact remains that a PS3 can only run those PS1 games supplied on discs without such copy protection (which many of the best games have), or the PSN versions of such games where the copy protection code has been removed before the PSN release.

    Best regards: dlanor
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    I'm still waiting for someone to release a backup manager with ps1 support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark22 View Post
    i need a ps1 emulator for the ps3
    and people in hell want ice water...
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