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Originally Posted by dlanor
Originally Posted by rlbond
its a bit longer of a twist and turn than just datel stealing the code. Yes they did just steal it however there is someone else involved in this. At the time sjeep was contacted by datel to inclue pgen in the new AR Max. However, they had no way of users adding their own roms. Sjeep did tell datel to contact drakonite in order to use UMCDR, which was already compatible with pgen. After just some short talks datel reps suddenly stopped corresponding via email. Months later the action replay max was released along with the UMCDR code inside.
We can only clearly see that sjeep knew about the UMCDR source theft way before datel released the AR MAX Evo while working for them. Once the truth was exposed Sjeep also went on the record to defend datel and stated no umcdr code is inside of the armax. He claimed datel had the capability to do this a long time ago. Anyone with a hex editor can see this wasnt the case.
Here is the post that sjeep used to defend datel
Keep in mind UMCDR is a two fold piece of code. One being the cdroms format and the other is the code that will read that special format. This code must be implanted inside of the ELF itself. So sjeep must have known one way or another and must have had some involvement in this umcdr contraversy.
Also near this time hermes released CDX, a variant of UMCDR just as drakonite was pulling UMCDR out of the scene. Hermes first admitted it was a variant of UMCDR with some improvements. Once UMCDR was pulled his story changed, claiming it had nothing to do with UMCDR and that he would not remove it from his projects. His variation of UMCDR also appeared in the O2 modchip and some of his other projects he releases under his new name "Mr.X"
We can all safetly say that the format has been pretty badly abused by others. You can see why drakonite doesnt want it to be used anymore.
Sjeep told a half truth.
It is true that Datel did a similar trick earlier, and yes, it was for the burnable upgrade discs for the old AR/Gameshark for ps1. That much was true.
HOWEVER, even though they could have rolled their own, they stole Draks so they could rush out pgen without needing to write their own CDVD.IRX replacement. and since they needed UMCDR for pgen to load it's roms, they went ahead and stole it for use in the rest of their product as well to save a few bucks.
CDX is a ripoff of UMCDR as well, and IS the reason it was pulled in the first place. That was the warez attempt. Datels theft really pissed him off more, though.
Datel has in fact admitted to using UMCDR. They haven't outright said so, but calling one partiuclar elf a "UMCDR Updater Software" is pretty damning evidence.
This page on their servers offically makes sjeep a liar. It's also why, if I had the knowhow I'd crack toxicOS. No copyrights for those who do not respect copyrights.
Last edited by _zaphod_; 12-14-2005 at 03:03 PM.
I got sticky'D.
Anyways, that clears it up quite a bit...
But I rather have (u)LaunchElf use the DVD type thing EEUG made...
as I recall the new format was designed specificaly for media files, and not data, but it may be possible to suport this new format in elf launchers.
so someone wrote UMCDR code, let the world see it, and is now pissed that some company is selling a product that uses it?
what kind of license did the code have?
the UMCDR code was nEver released. just a replacement for cdvd.irx that supported the new format, and a program called padISO that transformed a normal ISO into a UMCDR. neither is legally downloadable anymore without speciifically asking Drakonite himself.
So does this mean that one can "BURN" not press but burn a cd for a unmodded consol to boot?
Ive been told that it can be done with cd-r but not with dvd-r but never really belived it.
It's possible; you just have to change your cdvd.irx file.
Originally Posted by _zaphod_