PS2 Nes Problem

[Miles54321]

Hey guys, My nintendo recently broke so I want to use an NES emu on my PS2. I have a slim PAL ps2, v70000, I am trying to get FCE Ultra to run on it. When I run the emulator it comes up usually in black and white.

I used GS Mode Selector v0.23x Beta and it came up in color but the size was less than half the screen and it was very small, I used PAL NI to Pal, NTSC half buffer, pal half buffer and full buffer but it would still come up only half the screen in colour. Do you know what I might have done wrong?

[lee4]

When you load up FCEUltra
Press SELECT to bring up options menu
change the "Display" output from NTSC to PAL

[dlsmd]

I used GS Mode Selector v0.23x Beta

also you wont need to use GSM

[Miles54321]

also you wont need to use GSM

Thanks guys, I set Display to PAL, emulated system to PAL and im getting PAL games so it's working now

I just don't get why my SNES emulator don't work at full speed though, i did use gs kmode selector though for tht too, do i not need to use it? Is there an options screen where I can just change the settings like in FCE Ultra?

Any tips please, thanks

[lee4]

What game you try to play?
(gamename & region)

also try change Emulated Console from NTSC to PAL

[dlanor]

Thanks guys, it's in colour only problem is:

on FCE Ultra's NTSC setting: the game has the right sound but the sound lags a lot
on FCE Ultra's PAL setting: the sound doesn't lag but it is lower pitch and sounds weird

Any tips please?

Just one. Use a different video cable.

Most probably your sound timing issues are due to the emulator's sound rendering engine needing a physical video mode that matches the frame speed that the original NES game was designed for, in order for all the sample adaption and sound effects generated to come out exactly right.

Now you said earlier that your picture came in black-and-white before you got the advice to force FCEU into PAL mode. But you didn't mention any other problem for that playback, so I assume that both sounds and picture rendering were otherwise good, apart from the lack of colour, which is (100% certain) due to your use of a composite video cable, which is what every PS2 console has from scratch.

For a European PS2 this often comes as a PS2-specific video connector at one end, with three RCA connectors at the other end (R_Sound, L_Sound, Composite_Video), and those three signals are plugged into the back of a SCART connector that you plug into the TV set. While using a SCART connector this must never be confused with a real, fully connected, SCART cable.

What you can do to fix the problem is simply to go buy a new PS2 video cable, getting either an RGB-capable SCART cable, or if your TV can support it a proper component cable.

Component cable is the best choice here, as it allows use of HDTV video modes as well, both in some games and homebrews as well as in DVD-Video playback. But many older European TV sets lack HDTV support, and then usually lack any component inputs. (At the TV end this consists of 3 RCA connectors for video + 2 for audio).

But a SCART_RGB cable should do fine for normal PAL and NTSC signals, and is what I still use for two of my consoles, as I only have one HDTV set with component inputs. And for the PS2 console connected to that TV I do use a component cable (same as for a PS3, which my cable was originally intended for).

Either of those cable choices should let both homebrews (like FCEU) and commercial games run in full colour regardless of whether they use PAL or NTSC video modes.

But if you use a SCART cable there are two negative sides of it.

1: There is a slightly different delay between video data and syncs, causing the picture to 'slide' a little to the left. This can be adjusted for by GSM for games and homebrews it works well with. And some homebrews and games even have internal positioning controls to handle this. (eg:uLaunchELF, "Final Fantasy 12", just to mention one of each).

2: DVD-Video playback using the RGB outputs always produces a greenish tint, because the DVD-Player always optimizes its output for component cable, even if that is not what you use.

Because of those problems most SCART_RGB cables include a switch, either at the PS2 end, or in an extra switchbox in the middle of the cable (that also allows separate extraction of the composite signal, for other uses such as picture capture on a PC). Using that switch will modify a signal at the SCART end, causing the TV to use the composite signal instead of RGB, so you can at least play a DVD-Video that way.

But for all other cases you should leave the switch in RGB mode, not only because of the ability to show colour in NTSC mode, but also for the improved picture clarity in all modes.

Like most who stop using composite cable you will probably be shocked by the difference.

Best regards: dlanor

[lee4]

I just don't get why my SNES emulator don't work at full speed though

Is there an options screen where I can just change the settings like in FCE Ultra?

Not all SNES games will run at full speed on SNES-Station.

What game you try to play?
(gamename & region)

You try change SNES-Station settings (/\ button)

change
Display Mode : AUTO
to
Display Mode : PAL