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yea i suspect its only in eu because they wont be able to pull that shit here in the us
i dont think its legal and im sure sony doesnt want any more lawsuits ,you need to authorize them to go into your system and make changes especially if it wasnt in the original tos, and im sure someone will challenge this in court ,its tantamount to them hacking your system,just because i buy micro$oft windows doesnt give m$ the right to go into my computer and alter shit when i go to check my m$N email account ,or to go on my computer and alter my os if i log on to their website does it?isnt this what we have end user agreements for?sure they can say dont log into psn if you dont accept the agreement ,but this could, nay, SHOULD be construed as removing functionality(sound familiar)as this agreement was not disclosed at point of sale,or could be argued im sure
yeah just read that and i now feel like a dumb ass for jumping the gun
Originally Posted by JasonF
whys that what does it say?
yeah i got the user agreement screen
looks like most the TOS change was just changing small terms like PSN to Sony Online Services.
They also added TOS that says they can delete whatever they want off your hard drive under certain circumstances for automatically downloaded content (not sure why this is).
also, it says that if you or a sub account that you are liable breaches the TOS, they can proceed as they usually did (ban).
it doesnt seem to have anything specific to jailbreaking (atleast nothing new)... so this doesnt seem to be a TOS update geared towards these users.
as i said before, they have had the right to ban you for jailbreaking to begin with. even this new maintenance update doesnt seem to target jailbreak users. atleast, youd think if that was the case, PSN would be unavailable and log you out.
The automatic download changes are quite alarming, but if I'm reading it right it's only possible if you have that option activated on your console, which anyone using the jailbreak should have disabled.
The majority of the changes seem to relate to the addition of Qriocity (I've never heard of that before) and the renaming of PSN to Sony Online Services.
The things about hacking, bypassing, modifying the online client etc. were present from at least June 2010, so I think that makes things a little less worrying on the "banwave" front.
i guess its just a friendly warning saying : were gonna bend you over and stick it to you very soon lol
This is exactly the type of reaction Sony is hoping for. We are all up and arms about a potential banwave and it may come soon.
I think Sony wants people to update rather than ban them. It gives them hope that you may update eventually. If they ban you then it's guaranteed you stay jailbroken, they want your ps3 out of the jailbreak. I expect them to shut down psn from this workaround, but I doubt they would perma ban anyone. IMO anyway.
so it is no longer PSN it is now SOS, as in the distress signal
i dont think the banwave is what is troubling about this ,the threat of that has persisted the whole time anyway ,like jasonf said its the threat of them saying they reserve the right to update your fw w/o your knowledge and delete things from your hdd,i dont think thats legal ,atleast not in the us anyway,imagine if someone like apple did this ,apple store employee"yes sir now here is your new macbook,oh and btw we reserve the right to go into it anytime we like when your online and hey if the family photos you uploaded from your digital camera,your tax return ,or your companys spread sheets get accidentaly deleted by us snooping through and installing code on your new laptop, we're not at all liable,so do you want to purchase the insurance on that sir"
but yes u r right it does make sense for them not to ban ,its more profit for them ,but i think there more greedy than smart