Open Manager - Now updated to v1.17 - KaKaRoTo Support!

Nooo! Installed this OM1.17 over cover-manager rc7, and now most of the internal games won't start. Eboot.bin missing...external is working fine.

Has this something to do with OM, or covermanager?

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Originally Posted by zumazu

Has this something to do with OM, or covermanager?

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CoverManager since it's based on OM, and uses the same install location (OMAN46756)... :(

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Originally Posted by kakaroto

Now the problem is quite different, and it's not an easy (clean) fix.
Reason is, the function that gets modified is used by almost every system call, it defines what the system can and cannot do. The original psjb just patched it to return 'true' (everything is allowed/available), which makes backups work, but breaks compatibility with some games that expect some things to fail.
Now what Hermes did is to find what those games (F1 and SF4) were expecting to fail and patch only that system call to think the patched function returned 'false' instead of 'true', so the syscall fails. However, in the case of eyepet, and probably some other games, there are other things that are expected to fail, which is why eyepet doesn't work.. it's the same thing as the controller issues F1/SF4 had, just that eyepet behaves differently (freezes instead of disabling the controller).
Now the proper way of fixing this is not to find what eyepet checks and make it return 'false' just for it.. the proper way is to find out which system calls needs 'true' and only patch that system call so that backups would run, but without changing any other behavior.
To achieve this, that's the real problem, it's not an easy task.. and since I don't really care about backups personally, I don't think I can invest much time into this.
If someone can provide me with the proper patch, I'll gladly merge it into PL3, but for now, it looks like the solution is to either have a non-elegant hack, or to just run eyepet/whatever directly off the disc without the jailbreak.
If I get more info about this, i'll fix it, but for now, I need to sleep :)
good night.

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Thanks for the explanation, it sounds like this could also be the cause of the problem for games which only display a black screen such as Sonic's Genesis Collection and CoD4. It would be nice if someone could figure out how to fix it, especially as Sonic's Genesis Collection has Mega Drive, Master System, and System-16 emulators we might be able to use to play different games than the ones on the disc.

dump question, does the bm 1.17 support the Kakaroto pl3 or is it still just gaia?

change the name to openmanager 1.17 ;)

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Originally Posted by Krog

dump question, does the bm 1.17 support the Kakaroto pl3 or is it still just gaia?

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Yes, BM 1.17 supports PL3.

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Originally Posted by kakaroto

Ok, if I understand this correctly, the fix for 'controller issues' actually broke some other games, so hermes added a way to enable/disable that. so you need to enable that patch mode for it to work properly for these games.

humm.. ok I just looked at the code from the open manager.. looks like what they call "patched mode" is actually "no patches" mode, lol.. yeah, the 'patched mode' simply means the function that got patched is reverted to the normal setting.. and the 'normal mode' is basically with the kernel being patched (like it is now with PL3).

I don't have any of the 4 games you just mentioned (and don't plan on pirating them either, even for testing purposes). So I can't really test and validate that.. but what you could do (if you can compile your own pl3) is to edit the default_payload.S and comment out the 4 lines that say PATCH_INST with patch_func5 (2 lines), patch_func6 and patch_func7.
Then try eyepet/whatever and see if it works.. at least, if it works, it would confirm what the theory I just said. It's weird because as far as I understood it, no backups would be able to run without those patches...

Can you tell me if games other than the 4 you listed actually work in 'patched mode' ?
Thanks.

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Regarding patched mode, I am a little confused myself.

As far as i can tell from reading so many posts here and elsewhere since the JB came to light that moh's open manager NEEDS hermes V3 OR a payload that has peek and poke enabled for the patched mode to work.

Well i am using an ipod touch 1g using the very first payload that had the backup manager enabled (which was before the peek and poke payloads) I have one game that has the controller sync issue where the game does not recognise that the controller is synced even though the actual ps3 menu still does and i have tried using the hermes v3 also the peek and poke payload that was compiled for the ipod touch and neither worked, well the hermes functioned for playing discless but all other games did not work so i went back to original payload without peek and poke and for some reason (this is the part i do not understand and was wondering if anyone here could explain how it works) using the very first ipod touch payload that is not peek and poke enabled and has none of hermes patches BUT using patched mode in open manager 1.16 it fixes the controlller issues with G-force and the controller syncs to the game and runs perfectly

im using the v3 hermes and just updated to the latest open BM 1.17 but the
colour scheme hasnt changed its still showing the old style. some strange reason farcry2 when hilighted
shows and old version of OpenBM icon insted of the games icon. i have tryed deleteing
openBM from the ps3 and reinstalling it. all my games run fine from .he external hdd.
but now the games i copyed to the external are missing, if i copy those games back over will
they still work or will i need to delete the game data from the ps3 game data menu?

no worries if i have to just asking

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Originally Posted by ma71

CoverManager since it's based on OM, and uses the same install location (OMAN46756)... :(

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Damn covermanager! I'm formatting the whole internal drive, because I did not get access to some of the internal games, but some of them worked..

I'm now running OM 1.17, but is there a way to run both OM and covermanager? I really like covers you see ;) or will covermanager just likely mess up everything again?