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  1. #1 Is the PS3Key updatable with every HEX File? 
    Controlgrader is offline The Insider
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    Hi,
    i have a question about the PS3Key. Yesterday i bought a piece and my question is, if i can update the PS3Key on the PC by myself, with FLIP in example. Would that be possible? Or do i have to wait, until the PS3Key Team brings out a new Update?

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suuperfly View Post
    Hi,
    i have a question about the PS3Key. Yesterday i bought a piece and my question is, if i can update the PS3Key on the PC by myself, with FLIP in example. Would that be possible? Or do i have to wait, until the PS3Key Team brings out a new Update?

    Thanks.
    Yes, you can update it with PSGroove .hex if you want, but according to info from team PS3Key if it is updated with PSGroove the user will lose the ability to use "official" PS3Key updates in the future. This seems odd, but after thinking about it and talking to a couple friends this is prolly due to the fact that PS3Key plans to release patches to their code rather than complete .hex files with every update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suuperfly View Post
    Hi,
    i have a question about the PS3Key. Yesterday i bought a piece and my question is, if i can update the PS3Key on the PC by myself, with FLIP in example. Would that be possible? Or do i have to wait, until the PS3Key Team brings out a new Update?

    Thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith92 View Post
    Yes, you can update it with PSGroove .hex if you want, but according to info from team PS3Key if it is updated with PSGroove the user will lose the ability to use "official" PS3Key updates in the future. This seems odd, but after thinking about it and talking to a couple friends this is prolly due to the fact that PS3Key plans to release patches to their code rather than complete .hex files with every update.
    Wraith92 is correct. PS3Key team has plans to make their product unique and is in the process of building their own backup manager/loader. In order to load their loader, you need a PS3Key. So overwriting any proprietary files on the PS3Key with hex files will void warranty, support and any future updates.

    Once you overwrite PS3Key's file with PSGroove hex, you will NOT be able to load back PS3Key files again. So if you wanted the PS3Key's look but add your own files, you should of bought AVRKey. AVRKey has been sent to me and I will have a full review like I did for the PS3Key when I receive it.

    With the AVRKey, you can use FLIP program to load files but there will be a simple GUI made available for the AVRKey shortly.
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    Ok, thanks to both of you guys. You are helping me a lot.

    I hope that PS3Key will always update the PS3Key. I dont want that anybody have so much updates and i have to wait until the Team brings one out.

    @dcemureviews: Do you like the PS3Key? Did you have problems or something else? Im not sure how to think about it, because ive seen a lot of posts where user say that the PS3Key is making problems.

    Do you also know, where i can buy the AVRKey? To be honest, first i thought that the AVRKey would be fake. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcemureviews View Post
    Wraith92 is correct. PS3Key team has plans to make their product unique and is in the process of building their own backup manager/loader. In order to load their loader, you need a PS3Key. So overwriting any proprietary files on the PS3Key with hex files will void warranty, support and any future updates.

    Once you overwrite PS3Key's file with PSGroove hex, you will NOT be able to load back PS3Key files again. So if you wanted the PS3Key's look but add your own files, you should of bought AVRKey. AVRKey has been sent to me and I will have a full review like I did for the PS3Key when I receive it.

    With the AVRKey, you can use FLIP program to load files but there will be a simple GUI made available for the AVRKey shortly.
    And will u be able to program the avrkey so it becomes a ps3 key ? That what many would like to know so that u got the best of both words ? Anyway at the end considering it had 32kb right now its the best solution isnt it ?
    I already bought a ps3break shitty pic version,so next purchase has to be the perfect one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuke888 View Post
    And will u be able to program the avrkey so it becomes a ps3 key ? That what many would like to know so that u got the best of both words ? Anyway at the end considering it had 32kb right now its the best solution isnt it ?
    I already bought a ps3break shitty pic version,so next purchase has to be the perfect one...
    Don't think you can program AVRKey with PS3Key files.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suuperfly View Post
    Ok, thanks to both of you guys. You are helping me a lot.

    I hope that PS3Key will always update the PS3Key. I dont want that anybody have so much updates and i have to wait until the Team brings one out.

    @dcemureviews: Do you like the PS3Key? Did you have problems or something else? Im not sure how to think about it, because ive seen a lot of posts where user say that the PS3Key is making problems.

    Do you also know, where i can buy the AVRKey? To be honest, first i thought that the AVRKey would be fake. ^^
    This is a good way to look at it; if PS3Key is good wit support like I think they will be. Then always use their updates, if they fail to update then flash it with groove files cause if they don't support there will be no need in having the ability to use their files as they will become dated pretty quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suuperfly View Post
    Ok, thanks to both of you guys. You are helping me a lot.

    I hope that PS3Key will always update the PS3Key. I dont want that anybody have so much updates and i have to wait until the Team brings one out.

    @dcemureviews: Do you like the PS3Key? Did you have problems or something else? Im not sure how to think about it, because ive seen a lot of posts where user say that the PS3Key is making problems.

    Do you also know, where i can buy the AVRKey? To be honest, first i thought that the AVRKey would be fake. ^^
    PS3key is small but does the same like any other jailbreak device. I experienced no problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by nuke888 View Post
    And will u be able to program the avrkey so it becomes a ps3 key ? That what many would like to know so that u got the best of both words ? Anyway at the end considering it had 32kb right now its the best solution isnt it ?
    I already bought a ps3break shitty pic version,so next purchase has to be the perfect one...
    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith92 View Post
    Don't think you can program AVRKey with PS3Key files.
    When I get my AVR key, I will try and see if I can update it however with PS3Key. However, I dont think it will be possible. PS3Key update files are .upd where as AVRKey would use .hex files. AVRKey uses FLIP software to upload files and I dont think FLIP will read .upd files.
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    A little off topic, but I think it's worth mentioning considering the discussion of what controller is best to buy.

    Marcan is currently working on "AnOther OS" which is basically a linux loader payload via the usb exploit (ie. psjailbreak/freedom/groove)

    Marcan has commented that whatever device you use, needs to have at least 64KB of programmable flash, otherwise the payload won't fit.........

    This rules out many of the boards being used currently.

    I've got the AT90USBKEY which has 128KB and IMO is awesome (2 leds etc.) albeit twice the size of some of the smaller boards (eg. teensy 2.0, and commercially released usb keys)

    The other advantage I'm seeing is the Atmel controller seems to be the first build for all the latest psgroove updates.

    Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcemureviews View Post
    PS3key is small but does the same like any other jailbreak device. I experienced no problem.


    When I get my AVR key, I will try and see if I can update it however with PS3Key. However, I dont think it will be possible. PS3Key update files are .upd where as AVRKey would use .hex files. AVRKey uses FLIP software to upload files and I dont think FLIP will read .upd files.
    I have a question about the Update. Like ive seen before, theres no Button/Led to press/see to update. How do i update the Stick?
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