Diskless gaming

[Frullo]

I don't know, I fail at understanding why we can't emulate a disk and play diskless (I have a broken bd player..)
Before knowing anything about jailbreaking I thought we would be able to play without disk..

I'm currently looking for info about how the "loading the boot files from disk" stuff works but I didn't find anything useful

I believe the missing code is in the backup manager though (not in the payload)

Basicly I believe the playstation to mount the bd disk in a similar way to unix (/dev/bd or something similar) and then read the files needed to boot
AFAIK the backup manager fake the data position using something similar to a symlink (like ls -s /dev/bd /position/of/the/game/on/the/hdd)
Is it right?

I don't understand why the boot files HAVE to be necessarily on the bd: the boot files are compatible between different games (and that's why you can use a random bd to boot every game on you hdd); why the hell can't the boot files stay on hdd?

I really don't know where this protection is - maybe the bd player encrypt the data sent to playstation? If yes, why do certain games work diskless?

If anyone can help me understand this better I'll be very thankful

[ESmazter]

What's the problem with your BD? I have also a broken drive but finally got it to work so far that games work discless.

[xile6]

um someone correct me if im wrong but i thought that if not all but alot of the backup loaders work without disc? Also i know that there are some games that will only load with any blueray game disc in the drive. So im not truly understanding what problem you are having.

[Frullo]

well, this is not correct: a lot of games don't work without a bluray (little big, planet, assassin's creed 3.. chech this thread out: http://psx-scene.com/forums/f187/lis...8-games-70081/)

I have a broken bluray, when I put a disk in my bd I see the playstation is loading the disk (from the circle on top right of the screen) and the bd doesn't show up on xmb

When I try to run a game which require a disk (according to that list) the game crashes and returns back to xmb

I'm currently looking for a solution
The first reason is that I need it for my broken ps
The second reason is that I believe it's possible and it will be fun

[ESmazter]

I have the same problem. The thing that works is to put a disc into the "loaded" position when a game loads.

[Frullo]

I did what follow:
1) launch the payload
2) get to xmb
3) load the disk
4) go to backup manager and select the game
5) go to /app/whatever and wait for the background to change
6) launch the game pressing x

The game crashes back to xmb

at which point should I put the disk inside?

[mhca]

If I put a game disc in while at the XMB, the PS3 usually auto-starts the game belonging to the disc.
I always put the needed disc in the drive while inside the backup manager. That way I avoid undesired game start-up.

[Frullo]

oh thanks for your contribution but we're talking about broken blurays readers

[Clarkalel]

If I put a game disc in while at the XMB, the PS3 usually auto-starts the game belonging to the disc.
I always put the needed disc in the drive while inside the backup manager. That way I avoid undesired game start-up.

Just go to system settings and turn off auto start.

[Frullo]

I tried to put a bdisk inside the player during several phases of the process but I wasn't able to make a game boot

I noticed that if I load the disk after having loaded the game in the backup manager (when the screen turns black, between 4 and 5) the playstation freeze

Has anyone an idea about why this happen or can link me a sort of documentation (if it exists)?