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Ps3 Isos Now Playable!!!!! =D
Ps3 Isos Now Playable!!!!! =D –
FULL AUTO 2-BATTLELINES has been leaked by PDX...and along with a interesting nfo file...
| P * A * R * A * D * O * X |
| ___ _ _ ___ |
| \__\\\ \ . R E L E A S E I N F O R M A T I O N . / ///__/ |
| > Full Auto 2 Battlelines (c) SEGA < |
| cOMPANY : SEGA | rELEASE DATE : 18 Jan 2007 |
| sYSTEM : PlayStation 3 | sIZE : 35 x 100mb |
| tYPE : Car Combat | vIDEO MODE : NTSC/USA |
| sUPPLIER : Huey Lewis | cRACKER : PARADOGS |
| mEDIA : BLU-RAY | pLAYABLE : Like your GF |
PDX has released need for speed carbon with a nfo file back in demember tat i missed.... seems like they are very serious or they are kidding, lol
| P * A * R * A * D * O * X |
| ___ _ _ ___ |
| \__\\\ \ . R E L E A S E I N F O R M A T I O N . / ///__/ |
| > Need For Speed Carbon (c) EA Games < |
| cOMPANY : EA Games | rELEASE DATE : 03 Dec 2006 |
| sYSTEM : PlayStation 3 | sIZE : 118 x 100mb |
| tYPE : Driving | vIDEO MODE : NTSC/USA |
| sUPPLIER : Huey Lewis | cRACKER : The Egg |
| mEDIA : BLU-RAY | pLAYABLE : Soon |
straight from QJ
"Can a backup be played on the PS3? Yes, says Paradox, an Internet release group. Apparently, there's an exploit. Here's what's making the rounds on the Internet:
| cOMPANY : SCEI | rELEASE DATE : 27 Dec 2006 |
| sYSTEM : PlayStation 3 | sIZE : 120 x 100mb |
| tYPE : Racing | vIDEO MODE : NTSC/JAP |
| sUPPLIER : Huey Lewis | cRACKER : Wireless B/G? |
| mEDIA : BLU-RAY | pLAYABLE : Yes they are |
| sPECIAL nOTE: |
| Happy new year to all members who helped in the past and present! |
| And a question to all, is there a bug in the system software from |
| the playStation 3(R) Yes there is Nothing to add more.. |
What does this mean? Paradox has released a game image (ISO) of Motorstorm (Japanese) and in the NFO file, they say the game image is playable. And that's not the only thing that's making the hacks-and-exploits community smile: earlier, Paradox also said that the first sectors from a PS3 image (sector 0 to 20) are special and may be the decryption keys for the executables.
We ask the same question as the news source for this article: "Could the PS3 be exploited already?" Is that good news or bad news - I mean, it's good news for a lot of gamers, but is that good news for Sony? What's going to happen next?"
edit: heres the link to all the files in the pack paradox released except for teh iso ps3xpand.com/press/wp-content/uploads/File/MotorStorm_NFO_SFV_PAR2.zip
includes the nfo, and sfv files and there are about 99 parts to the iso
Last edited by ken9; 01-21-2007 at 11:55 AM.
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That is awesome for gamers but I was hoping it would be a while before backups were playable. That way Sony can make a profit and everyone gets what they want.
Paradox have no intention of releasing that info, as it could easily be patched in firmware by Sony.
o crap so this is liek leaking out info tat benifits sony but not us...tat sucks...so close lol
FW: 3.10 OE
Why is it a bad thing? If you can play back ups on the PS3 I might seriously consider buying one when one is available to purchase. If back ups are not playable today on the PS3 I might buy one in 2 -3 years when the hardware is more reliable and I will be able to play back ups on the PS3. I might also buy a Wii while I wait and play my hundreds of PS2 games while I wait. So what is the difference besides that I would have a Wii and would have to wait a few years for an improved hardware product?
Perhaps you’re ready to reply that Sony loses money selling hardware and makes it up on game sales and accessories. If that is your position then my position is that I don't care. Is Nintendo losing money selling the Wii hardware? In business if you use the wrong model to sell your product you risk losing money; nobody but me cries if I run my business into the ground, and it is nobody's fault for my poor business practices other than myself. If you feel bad for Sony then buy their shares and drive the stock price up, but don't cry about the customer not doing what Sony wants them to do. Cry about console companies not doing what consumers are asking for because the console makers believe they know better than their customers.
So to recap Sony would lose market share to Nintendo (X-box 360 is looking great for back ups too) if back ups are not available to play on the PS3 in the near future. Sony would lose more money selling me a console today than 2-3 years from now because the technology would be more standardized, production methods will improve, and there will be a greater consumer demand because the R&D costs can be shared on the returns of a greater section of consumers.
But if I have to wait to be motivated enough to buy the PS3 they will likely lose people like me to the Nintendo Wii because of the lower price and the innovative controller and hopefully innovative games. Having less time to enjoy the useful working life of the PS3 if I buy 2-3 years from now means I will be less likely to buy costly accessories; sales of accessories support subsidizing the sales at a loss of the console systems. I have an eyetoy, 4 PS2 controllers, 1 arcade joystick game pad, 1 racing wheel system, 2 dance pads, 1 guitar hero controller, and I found myself seriously considering buying a package of two microphones for the SingStar games because I use my PS2. Luckily I found myself remembering that I don't sing much and hate K-bars (what they call karaoke bars in Asia) so I put the microphones back before I made it to the Wal-mart check-out (Wal-mart is in Asia too).
I think the console makers should really start paying attention to sites like ps2-scene. For no cost to the console makers they have access to marketing information on what their core gaming consumer wants. They can even see these wants become reality thanks to the efforts of the homebrew makers. In business we pay top dollar for this kind of detailed information but when it is freely available it seems the big corporations have little interest in it. Maybe Nintendo is different and is listening to what their consumer wants because they are the only system I know of that plans to emulate other systems and sell roms of early console system games to play on their new system. It may have only taken 10 years for Nintendo to offer for a fee what homebrew developers have been offering for free on both consoles and PC's, but that is more than Microsoft or Sony is doing. Nintendo might just see a new rise to power of Super Mario. I am not saying Nintendo might return to glory because of pretty graphics or multi-function applications such as emails, blu-ray and HD playback, or even access to my computer, but because Nintendo seems to be concerned with making something fun cheap, and by using the hard work of homebrewers to supply wants that gamers have always had, games.
I am all for playing back-ups on the PS3, and not just because I am too cheap to pay $80 per game. I am for back-ups on the PS3 because it might force Sony to rethink their marketing campaigns such as selling the console at a loss, ignoring the wishes of their end users, and it might encourage enough consumers to buy the PS3 to give Sony a solid consumer base before they lose out to Nintendo and their economically priced Wii.
God made me do it
Most people don't have the balls to be soldering mods into a 200-300 dollar console, who in their right mind would think these same majority of the people who make up the gaming community would do something like that to a 500-600 dollar console? Their investments go further then that $500-600 dollars though... tax and a game can bring that figure up close to 200 dollars.
Not having playable backups will not be the death of the PS3.
Not being able to play back-ups won't be the death of the ps3 but it might be the death of the ps4, or even the ps5. If there is not a predictably large enough market share to support profits then no corporation will heavily invest. The largest investment cost of research and development of the PS3 is already invested and Sony is hoping for a return on their investment. If the investment of the PS3 does not show a profit it is less likely that there will be enough market data to support investment in a PS4 using the same model. Maybe my business education allows me to see things that those without it might miss so I will try to choose smaller words and write more clearly.
Not being able to play back-ups on the PS3 will lose Sony market share. By being at a competitive disadvantage to Nintendo based on price, and at a disadvantage to Microsoft due to release times, Sony cannot afford to lose more market share if it wishes to remain #1. Being #1 console is more than just something you can boast about; being #1 means marketing and development strategies. If you can predict that you will sell more consoles than any other console system you can use that to your advantage to make the barrier to entry higher to reduce future competition and to limit the profits of your existing competitors. You can use your position as #1 to ingrain your product name into the consumers so they know and trust your products over the competition. Being #1 allows you to market new products to your existing consumers because they are already receptive to at least one of your products. Being #1 has significant advantages.
If you know more than me about business then I strongly encourage you to start your own company. I have a paper office in Hong Kong and manufacture products for foreign clients in mainland China. What do you do?
God made me do it
Well I might be crazy, but I seem to remember hearing that TG16, Sega and MSX games where going to be eventually be downloadable for the ps3. If you ask me this is not good at all, if game devs don't make a profit on their games they will make less and less games for the ps3, which means if you have bought a ps3 or are planning on buying one you might not see all the games you were waiting for, and so those $600 you spent on your system was a waste of money.
I don't particularly care for sony as a company, but I do care about the competition they bring to the console business. I wouldn't want any of the 3 companies to go the way of Sega, since competition is and will always be in our best interest. You don't have to feel sorry for sony, but how can you seriously think that and exploitable ps3 is in sony's best interest? Sure if they sell more consoles then eventually manufacturing cost will drop, but no matter how much they drop they will never make up what they lost unless the software sales are there.
Piracy is never a good thing for a console, look at the psp a high % of psp systems are running homebrew/isos, mine included, and do you think that helps sony? look at the psp software sales, pretty bad, and plus they're in constant tug-o-war with the homebrew community, I don't think they want the same scenario for the ps3, since their efforts means money and time wasted on that instead of something else.
As you said you don't care about any of that, but don't try to say that this would help sony in some way, because it won't. I do agree that they need to listen to consumers more and that they should read forums like this one instead of waisting money on those idiotic focus groups since on here they will get true opinions on the questions they have. If it doesn't go to well for sony this time around I hope they realize their mistakes for the next time, Nintendo came back after 2 arguably failed consoles, and their "we can do no wrong" attitude is what probably caused these, so sony won't be the first nor the last company to get "bigshot-aitis"
Being #1 is really a double edged sword, most of sony's mistakes where made because they were #1, "hey we are #1 let's make this console an all in one media center, sure it will be expensive, but hey we're #1 people will still buy it". Sony's one and only solution IMO is to hunt down exclusives, and get some good games on the system ASAP, but it's true maybe your business education is just so beyond me that I can't comprehend your arguments. To me having all that market share, selling consoles that I will be loosing money on can never be a good thing, and I seriously doubt that they will make a profit on hardware sales anytime soon if at all.
Let's watch Nintendo and see if the profits from the sales of the Wii console prove me right or wrong. The model is wrong in my opinion not the customer. Every time I hear a business start blaming the customers I expect that business to fail.
PSP is a handheld device. Handheld devices are a small niche market in the console gaming market. When the size of your market shrinks it changes the business strategies required to dominate a market. So what is applicable to the PSP is not transferable to the PS3. Additionally the PSP was priced significantly higher than the competition. If the market demand is significant then profits will be made. If the market demand is less than adequate to support the business strategy then it becomes unprofitable to continue to operate in a manner that loses money so investment is reallocated to areas that are deemed profitable. The PSP continues to produce games but no longer produces PSP ready movies because of the profit motive, or maybe you believe production was halted because of piracy?
Piracy is not a significant factor in any console system I am aware of in determining if the system is profitable or not. For example consider the PS2 and the introduction of Hard Drive Loader. Hard Drive Loader is probably the ultimate program for PS2 gaming piracy. Based on the point of view that this piracy reduces the profits of Sony I have to ask for some evidence that this is the case. Can you show me any data to support that point of view? Maybe a sales chart that shows an increase in sales of games in relation to the increase of PS2 units sold, and then a noticeable decline in game sales after the introduction of Hard Drive Loader? If you can't provide this evidence then in the nicest possible way I encourage you to STFU and listen to those of us that have the education to back up what we are saying with facts, not opinions and spin we heard from corporations.
Originally Posted by masr1979
At least we agree on one point.
God made me do it
My your are just so humble about your business education LOL, you know sometimes people make things that are really simple really complicated. I fail to see were I'm saying the consumer is wrong or where I'm defending sony's "model" (WOW I feel like I too have a business ed. now), sony have made a lot of mistakes, and yes it is their fault, exactly how that will turn piracy into any sort of profit only you and the other "analyst" of the market know.
So you say that the psp example doesn't go with the ps3, why is the reason nintendo has dominated the handheld market??? is it because they have a nice business plan, or because they know what portable gaming really is about? sony has made a rather nice machine with the psp, but it's not very portable gaming friendly, unlike the ds, the ds has short puzzle like games that you can start playing and stop playing and continue again pretty easily, the psp on the other hand has the horrible load times, not good when your on the go, and the games are games suited for playing on your home console, since you need to play them for some time to get into the game, that's my video game consumer opinion.
The PSP umd movies are not selling because of the price tag they had, if they would have been cheaper or more feature packed then they would have probably sold well, though I can't see myself watching a movie on my psp. LOL piracy kill umd movies, that's funny, who the hell would pirate a umd movie they weren't even worth the hassle. AS businessy as you want to sound the plain and simple truth is that the psp is loosing to the ds because of the games, just as the ps2 beat the xbox because of the games, or was it because sony allowed HDL? well the xbox got hacked just like the ps2 and was much more hacker friendly why didn't it sell better then the ps2?
You talk about facts, well show me the facts that support your arguments then, show me the rise in sales after the ps2 was hacked, or that it didn't affect sales, and no your business education isn't a fact, right now we are both guessers as to what will happen. Maybe your an educated guesser compared to me, but just like all those analyst that make me laugh with their funny predictions, you are just guessing.
I'll give you a piece of advice, don't underestimate people or situations, over-confidence isn't a good thing, and education doesn't always make people wise, intelligent yes sure it does, but wise enough to apply that intelligence? not always.
I'm not trying to convert you to my way of thinking, but by both of your replies I get the feeling that you don't even consider the possibility that my point of view might be right, so this argument is pretty much gonna go nowhere since all I'm saying is that sony needs better games to sell more consoles while you are calculating the speed of light times PI, divided by the amount of people that bought a ps2 after HDL, multiplied by the radius of a DVD disk.
To finish up one of my favorite quotes "All I only know is that I know nothing"... my other favorite one is "ignorance is bliss" so go figure
-edit- Oh I almost forgot, we are talking about profit right, so in other words if you do find those facts show me that the ps2 was more profitable because of HDL.
Last edited by masr1979; 12-30-2006 at 08:24 AM.