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No Video after Reflow
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Bluguyzr2 here, I had a CECHE01 80gb Phat BC PS3 with a YLOD (Green, flash yellow, then blinking red light). I reflowed it according to Gilsky's fix on youtube. All goes well, I follow every single thing right, but I didn't have any thermal paste and I can't buy any right now, so I didn't bother with that part. I tested it before I put it back together (Connected essentials then turned it on), and It turned on fine. I didn't connect it to the TV yet, but it turned on normal and let me eject the disc. It must have froze because I had to flip the switch to turn it off so that I could put it back together. So I put it back together and took it back to my TV. The last video output it was on was Component because It YLODed at my friend's house who doesn't have a HDTV. So I hook up component and turn it on. Again, no YLOD, but no video on the screen. So i try HDMI and RGB cables, but still no video. My controllers won't sync up wired or wireless. One time i played with it and I got a screen of Sparks or white stars on a black screen. That was the only video I ever got out of it. The other strange thing is that when I try to turn it off, it is frozen. I hold the power button, but It doesn't turn off after a few seconds of holding it. I have to hold it for like ten seconds or flip the switch. What is wrong with my PS3? What can I do to fix it? This entire thing doesn't make any sense to me. Do I need to re- reflow video chip or what? Thanks in advance, Bluguyzr2
oh man, the thermal paste is CRUCIAL. You just completely fck up the system now.
I didn't remove the Thermal Paste off the chips, I didn't have any so I didn't bother. Is it really bad that I just didn't mess with the thermal paste at all? I really hope I didn't completely screw it up by doing that.
yeah it could be bad, if you touch it or the two parts are not in full contact.
Well man, you can try this: Do the reflow properly again. Check if some part of the mobo isnt fried. REPLACE THE OLD DIRTY PASTE WITH NEW ONE (follow the tut man). also Check if you misplace a long screw and cut the usb line in the mobo (just in cause). if you can take a good pics of the two sides of the mobo and post it here we can help you better. Maybe is not all over, if the RSX or cell aren't severely fried but you have to be careful. Follow the tuts as they said and dont skip steps. You are sh1ting a 500$ toy just for saving 5$ in thermal paste.
Be careful when handling the mobo and when you put it back together, dont misplace screws or cables and dont forget to put back the battery. Take the pics after carefully cleaning the old paste.(if you have had for a long time the ps3 it must be super dirty and is not usable anymore so you had to replace it).
Not seen the fix tut you are talking about, but the only REAL perminant fix is to get the GPU reballed with leaded solder balls and get rid of the old lead free solder that's used.
Also, thermal paste is CRUCIAL! How else is the GPU & CPU going to transfer heat to the heatsinks?? The whole YLOD problem is due to the processors not being able to dissipate heat into the heatsink, causing excessive thermal stress on the BGA solder joints which makes contact points crack at the edges of the BGA, hence heating it up and reflowing it fixes it, but it will come back in 1-3 months or so.
The processors have thermal overload protection so they will shut down if they over heat, but then you have placed excessive thermal stress onto the solder joints again, and they fail again, this time it appears not fully, but enough to give no video on screen. At the very, very least reflow it again and use GOOD thermal paste (can not stress this enough). Arctic Silver 5 is best, don't use any old rubbish.
However, if you want a perminant fix, get the GPU reballed by someone who knows what they are doing and I guarantee it will last.
Thanks everyone for all the great suggestions. I will try them as soon as I get enough money to spend on buying the equipment. Right now the PS3 is a useless brick. Just to check, I turned it on today and it came on!!! It asked me if I wanted to output HDMI and I said yes. It reconfigures the resolution and takes me to the XMb. I just browsed the XMB for a while then turned around to tell my brother. I turn back around and the controller isn't working any more (Frozen), and the screen is flashing and has lines all over it. I had to flip the switch to turn it off. I haven't turned it on since. What is wrong now? Is it the thermal compound? What can I do to fix this and use it normally again? Thanks, Bluguyzr2
The problem is it's overheating, this causes the system to first lock up, and then as it gets hotter and the BGA solder joints weaken you get artefacts on screen or lines, etc.
Seriously, don't want to sound offensive, but you don't sound like you have any sort or technical knowledge or troubleshooting skills. Do you REALLY want to be practicing them on your PS3? Personally I say give it to someone who can reball it and pay them the £50-£70 to fix it properly.
These guys have rework stations costing £1,000's and vast amounts of knowledge. I would offer but my old workstation failed and my replacement is currently 'en route. I have a PS3 sitting right here with YLOD, GPU lifted and reballed but can't refit until my new rework station arrives. :-/ Gonna be another 1-2 weeks to get here.
I appreciate your advice, man, but you did offend me a little. I do have technical knowledge and troubleshooting skills, it is just that I don't know much about how this PS3 overheating stuff works. Please forgive me, but this is my first time even opening the ps3 farther than the first case piece. I am sorry if I angered you, by my small knowledge of this issue. This is the first time that I have encountered it, so please forgive me. I really would like to send it to someone, but I don't have the money to pay for a reball right now. I was hoping that this reflow was going to be good enough to fix it until I got the money for a Reball. I plan on taking your advice in your first post and reflowing again and putting on the thermal paste. I really appreciate your advice and please forgive me for my small knowledge of this issue. Also, do you have any advice on where I could get some Arctic Silver 5 or possibly a just as good ''cheap'' paste? I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Bluguyzr2
As I said, I did not mean to offend, but there is no "nice" way to say these things, so I just tell it as I see it. We all have had first times with consoles, even people who do it for a living, no-one is born with this knowledge, it is learnt, but most people practice on scrap bits of hardware or apply knowledge from other applications to this. A PS3 is no different to any other electronic device, it is in essence just a computer, and it comes across in your posts that your troubleshooting skills on devices like this are not great.
Not using thermal paste is a HUGE schoolboy error, then asking about why it's freezing & artefacting when there is no thermal paste in it implies you don't know what you are doing. Like I said, appologies if I offended you, but I call it as I see it.
Anyway, try reflowing it if you feel you are up to the task, but it's all at your own risk (as I'm sure you are aware). As for where to get arctic silver 5, that depends....are you in the UK, US, Europe, etc??
Okay, I understand that I am not very good with this device (PS3). Please forgive me. I don't know what I am doing because I haven't ever dealt with overheating before. So, Please Forgive me. Okay, I will reflow again, and you think that if I put on the thermal Paste, it will fix my freezing issues, and I will be able to actually use my console again? Have I completely ruined anything from being a Dumb Schoolboy? I am in the U.S. by the way. Do you have any more suggestions for me?