Bluray drive NOT detected at all while it seems to work properly..

[instyle9]

Hello guys,

first of all i'm a new guy to the scene. I bought my first second hand PS3 today and it has a weird problem. I've been searching all over the web but i cant find any story with the same symptoms. I hope you guys know whats up.

First of all, the PS3 is a second hand internetbuy. For just 70 euro i bought it from a guy who said the drive was not working but further it is working properly.
So today i connected it and booted it for the first time. Everything seems to work just fine. However, there is a weird problem going on.

After insering a bluray disc into the drive it makes the normal noises (disc starts to spin, the blue light on the front of the PS3 starts flickering, drive makes "normal" noises). Without looking at the television screen you'd say it was loading the game.

The point is, the drive is not detected at all. I can't see the BluRay drive anywhere, it doesnt say it's analyzing the disc or anything. It's like there is no bluray drive at all. I have opened the PS3 already, checked all the connectors and made sure they were all connected properly.

Some other facts about the system: it seems to have CFW installed seeing the fact it has (non-working) versions of Gaia Manager and Backup manager installed. When i try to load one of them it gives me the error: 80029519. The firmware version currently installed is 3.41.

A friend of mines told me one of the first jailbreaks disabled the use of the bluray player. If this is true, is there a way to make it work again? Is this even true? I have no knowledge of early types of jailbreaking.
Secondly, maybe the previous owner tried putting a different bluray drive in the PS3? This means the bluray controllers are not matching anymore. If this is the case, would it give these kind of symptoms? Is there a way to make them "match" again using certain (homebrew) software?

Any ideas?

[chesh]

It's because a other then original blu-ray drive was put into that PS3 and the NAND chip from the original wasn't swapped w/ the replacement. The drives are individually keyed to the system and if those keys don't stay intact when replacing, the drive is not recognized. Get your money back or see if the guy you bought it from has the bluray drive that was originally in it. Oh, and in the future, don't link back to your post on another site. You want to post something here, then post the whole thing. You want to post there, then do so there.

Also, the guys over at Eltorodo (SP?) are currently working on a way to remarry a bd-drive. If it goes anywhere, it should be available shortly.

[instyle9]

What i forgot to mention is that the connector with the "clip" thing on it, (you put the thin wide wihite cable in the connector on te motherboard and than "click" it down to fixate the cable) is broken. The "click" mechanism seems to have been broken off. It was now fixated with a fraction of what looked like some kind of creditcard-like card. However i think i managed to make it connect properly by putting a folded piece of paper between the connector and the cable to make it connect.

So now there are 4 possibilities, or more if you have any suggestions

1. Broken connector fixating mechanism which means the drive is not connected properly to the motherboard. This could explain why the drive seems to work just fine but it just doesnt get recognized

2. An early type of jailbreak made the bluray drive not work anymore (see above what my friend said), which could also be a possible reason of the drive not showing up

3. The previous owner tried to replace the drive which failed because of the different bluray controllers?

4. The lens is broken?

Any suggestions to this seemingly complex problem?

[chesh]

1. Very well could be this. People have taken small pieces of plastic and hot glue/electrical tape and tried to hold it in place. Best off holding the connector in place and powering up the system to see if it's recognized.

2. No JB's disabled the BD-drive. They just killed bluray movie playback if you downgraded

3. Definately could be this too

4. If you have the icon up by the clock that rotates, etc when you put in a disk, this could be the issue too.

[instyle9]

It's because a other then original blu-ray drive was put into that PS3 and the NAND chip from the original wasn't swapped w/ the replacement. The drives are individually keyed to the system and if those keys don't stay intact when replacing, the drive is not recognized. Get your money back or see if the guy you bought it from has the bluray drive that was originally in it. Oh, and in the future, don't link back to your post on another site. You want to post something here, then post the whole thing. You won't to post there, then do so there.

Also, the guys over at Eltorodo (SP?) are currently working on a way to remarry a bd-drive. If it goes anywhere, it should be available shortly.

Sorry about that, i just wanted to reach as much people as possible to try to solve this problem. I didnt mean to break the rules.

Is there any hope there is a possible fix for this problem in the near future and are you sure this is 100% the cause of this problem?

Greetings and thanks for answering

[chesh]

Hahah, looks like you and I are posting at almost the same time. See my response above.

[instyle9]

Thanks for answering chesh. I had a reply at a different forum saying that if the logic board is not matching i won't be able to play installed games such as demo's and that if the logic board is wrong or it is not working properly i cant upgrade the firmware and im stuck up with a useless PS3 (for now). Is it a good idea trying to boot into recovery mode, use option 2,3,4 and 5 and eventually try installing 3.41 again? I dont know if there is a CFW or OFW installed at the moment?

I think it's not a lense problem, because it doesnt show any icon near the clock.

I will try keeping the connector in place making sure it is fixated properly and see if it works then. If that's not it, it'll probably be the new bluray-drive issue. Which means i am screwed?

[chesh]

I'd try the suggestion about demo's and whatnot. If they blackscreen, then it's the blu-ray logic board. Recovery mode isn't going to do anything for you on this problem. I mean, you can try, but don't get your hopes up. Downgrading to 3.41 will definitely kill your blu-ray movie playback if it's a 256MB nand unit (mostly phats and a couple of early model slims).

[instyle9]

So basically i should try running a demo or whatsoever from a USB dongle? So I can suggest there is CFW installed because of the backup managers currently installed on the dashboard? They are not working though. How do i know for sure there is a CFW installed?

I am not actually downgrading, the currently installed version seems to be 3.41, thats what it tells me in system info. Is it safe to just installed the OFW first, to make a fresh "clean" start hehe

So what i should do is:

1. check the connection/cable/connector
2. try running a demo (how?), this obviously needs a CFW installed?


ps i've been checking out elotrolado with google translate. It seems like they have somekind of breakthrough however they are not willing to publicate their methods...

[chesh]

Sorry, didn't realize it was 3.41. If you don't see an Install Packages option in the Game XMB, then you have OFW. The way the BM's were probably installed is via a JB dongle (X3max, teensy, e3 card reader, etc) if the Install Packaged option isn't visable. If that BD drive isn't working, then a standard install of a firmware will fail, as it checks all system components as part of the install process.

If it was me, I'd first see if you have Install Packages. If so, download a demo to your thumb drive and install it via that. If you don't have it, you'll need to acquire a dongle so you can make it appear. Obviously, check all your connections and whatnot before starting this.

BTW: links are ok to articles and whatnot, just not when you've posted something on another site and you then post here and tell people to look there for more info.