Hey Microsoft!

[garyopa]

Would I be correct in assuming that u got banned around a time you where using a 4th wave title?

Well the truth is, this time around, why there was over a million banned is:

Instead of M$ just doing simple c/r table disc checks like they used to do, which only got a few thousand or more banned which were playing bad-rips or had buggy firmware in M$ previous ban waves over the last few years.

This time, M$ themselves, grabbed a few different boxes, and modded themselves with the various latest ixtreme firmwares, and coupled with this stupid online internet checking program, run thousands of internal tests.

And then when they were happy with their results, when live with a new expanded series of c/r table disc checks.

This checks basically were done in such a way to without making a mistake id ever single modded system, no matter what type of disc they were playing, even if nothing but originals, or perfect checked rips, they would still know.

The reason is the current batch of firmwares (basically ixtreme v1.4 and higher), were too complexed, all this stealthing,checking,stopping bad rips,checking table of stored crc's, made the modded drives behave a little slower, and not as smooth as the original stock firmware, when M$ ran their now nicely tuned expanded c/r table series of disc checks.

Even tho, the firmware was perfect, and the discs were stealth,checked,and cross-checkec, the firmware was off in a small amount of milliseconds when faced with the new expanded disc checks, even if the disc in the drive was original, the firmware slipped up by a even few less milliseconds compared to a matching stock firmware.

Those that slipped thru this massive ban, were ones which either had not care much about having the latest and greatest firmware and matching games, and were still running last years firmwares, or non-stealth ones, or ones which never used their drive even to play original games, both of these cases were totally rare, maybe less then a few hundred, so not a worry to M$.

Anyhow, that is it for my thoughts on the matter, 1am here, time for some much needed rest, as long busy day tomorrow.

[Dangwoot]

hmm somone pm me and let me know how much it would cost for me to have them fix my 360 that needs to be reflowed as well as it isnt banned.

[TRIaXOR]

that's exactly what I'm pissed about. **** Xbox live. **** the acheivements. I just want to play my games from the hard drive.

I hope there's a way for someone to create some sort of program to re-enable that one feature on banned consoles.

Thats the reason I switched, I got a 120GB on my elite thats ****in useless now

oh well, got myself a lovely new 750GB drive for my new PS3

[Peppers]

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[guenthar]

If it is true that they used the amount of time it takes for the Dvd drive to load data as the reason for the bans I wonder how many people were banned when they shouldn't have. Dvd and Cd drives slow down over time so anyone with an older console (especially since they don't use the best drives) would be banned because of this. What would account for over 1 million banned Xbox 360s since there wouldn't likely be that many people with a modded Xbox 360.

I was wondering that if you have an Xbox 360 that wasn't banned and hasn't played wave 4 games or been on Live since before the summer would you beable to used an image of the nand to unban any Xbox 360 of the same type? I haven't used my Xbox 360 in several months and so probably haven't been banned and haven't played newer games.

The full banning off of Xbox Live could prevent people from playing games they buy since some games need patches which can only be gotten off of Live.

Microsoft have done 2 things that are illegal and can result in a lawsuit. One thing is disabling features on your Xbox 360 and the other thing is stating offically that people using modified consoles are playing pirated games which constitutes libel. Not all people modify their consoles to pirate their games but to make backups of their games.

PS. They also disabled the ability to play movies off of the Xbox 360 hd but you can still stream it.

[Dark Mod]

you can join the private networks with your banned console bootleg, everyone who have a banned console is on the private network. Play all backups there and still kick ass there.....lol

[garyopa]

you can join the private networks with your banned console bootleg, everyone who have a banned console is on the private network. Play all backups there and still kick ass there.....lol

Well that would be all good in the days of the original xbox, and there was private networks setup, but now on the x360 very few games come with "system link", and also the x360 is hardcoded in the kernal to force the network port to have high pings if you are not connected via the x360 live vpn tunnel, so once you are banned, the number of games you can play is limited, and the lag is horrible caused by the hardware forced high ping level.

[Bootlegninja]

you can join the private networks with your banned console bootleg, everyone who have a banned console is on the private network. Play all backups there and still kick ass there.....lol

and I quote myself.

that's exactly what I'm pissed about. **** Xbox live. **** the acheivements. I just want to play my games from the hard drive.

I hope there's a way for someone to create some sort of program to re-enable that one feature on banned consoles.

[Peppers]

you did read that you can wright protect your 360's flash for your next one right?

Basically you just ground the WP pin on the flash and add a switch in between so you can still update when you want to.

[Bootlegninja]

Idealisticly, it only works if the switch is installed before the ban. At least that's what I've read on Xbox-scene.