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  1. #1 Read and Write speeds when backing up games? 
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    What do you suggest? I saw some people say set it low so the quality is better. For example my write speeds are 2 4 6 8.
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    at mid speed with a good quality of media like Sony or Verbatim etc.

    moved your thread to ESR Forum .next time use the proper section to post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cory View Post
    I saw some people say set it low so the quality is better.
    This is because older media did not support the current write speeds available now on the newer media, so it was suggested back then to use a lower speed. If your using media you bought 5-10 years ago, then yea, use a lower speed.

    Today's media can support higher write speeds without corrupting quality, but you dont want to use the Max as that "could potentially" cause quality corruption, so the mid-speed setting your burner supports is whats recommended now, to ensure a good burn.
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    When burning to a 16x Verbatim disc I have seen that 12x and 8x give me the best results, but even burning it at 18x it still works fine
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    Thanks guys. I'm using an HP latop thats 2 years old. So I would think max speed would be fine, but I write at 4x anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snake3 View Post
    When burning to a 16x Verbatim disc I have seen that 12x and 8x give me the best results, but even burning it at 18x it still works fine
    yeah from my experience xbox1, 360, and PS1 disc images need to be burned at a specific write speed to achieve the best burn in comparison to the original. yet PS2 disc images can burned at either mid or max speeds and you'll still see no difference (perhaps in read & loading speeds only). verbatim is the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noetikos View Post
    yeah from my experience xbox1, 360, and PS1 disc images need to be burned at a specific write speed to achieve the best burn in comparison to the original. yet PS2 disc images can burned at either mid or max speeds and you'll still see no difference (perhaps in read & loading speeds only).
    Another important factor to consider here is aging.

    The disc change that occurs while burning is a photosensitive chemical process, and the precise amount of exposure (both in durance and intensity) determines the amount of chemical change at that time. But it doesn't necessarily stop there... A chemical process once started can sometimes continue even after the input of energy that caused it to start has ceased.

    That is why some discs work fine for the first couple of boots and then inexplicably fail a few days (or even hours) later.

    Unfortunately I'm not sure exactly what can cause this to happen though, and thus not how to avoid it either. But a good rule of thumb is to stick to the median of what the disc is designed for, which as usual brings us back to the rule of using half the max speed. No matter how you look at it, that is what makes best sense to avoid any abnormal results.

    And since top quality Verbatim discs are manufactured for a max speed of 20X but sold with a specified max speed of 16X, it makes best sense to burn them at speeds between 8X and 10X.

    verbatim is the way to go.
    I agree, and that is the brand I always use myself.

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    I love Sony DVD+R with the accucore. never had any issues with those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlanor View Post
    Another important factor to consider here is aging.

    The disc change that occurs while burning is a photosensitive chemical process, and the precise amount of exposure (both in durance and intensity) determines the amount of chemical change at that time.
    i never imagined that a photosensitive chemical effect was the underlying cause for the enabling of recording data to a blank disc. i do know that after burning a dvd disc, i would notice on the back surface of the disc a number different darkened inner and outer rings.


    Quote Originally Posted by dlanor View Post
    But it doesn't necessarily stop there... A chemical process once started can sometimes continue even after the input of energy that caused it to start has ceased.

    That is why some discs work fine for the first couple of boots and then inexplicably fail a few days (or even hours) later.
    i myself haven't experienced this problem yet but i don't doubt that it happens. perhaps this problem occurs in certain circumstances such when using the crappy media, a faulty burner, or even using both in conjunction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bootlegninja View Post
    I love Sony DVD+R with the accucore. never had any issues with those.
    well i have only used both the plus and minus sony media with the silver disc face. i've never had a problem with sony media ever. i mostly get sony media because that's what walmart and walgreens carry but with the lame exceptions of verbatim and dual layer media.
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    Interesting points everyone. I only use quality media as I've never found the reason to save $1-3 bucks for cheap media.

    Also, how often do you replace your DVDRW drives? Ive had mine since 2007 and have probably burnt about 300 CDs and DVDs...
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