08-03-2004,05:24 PM

Originally Posted by
necrolop
I cant even fathom how you could survive without meat. And veganism is just crazy, do you not eat medicine in gelcaps? I can see shying away from some animal products for health reasons, or not eating pork cause of how they treat pigs, but humans are omnivores, its in our nature and blood to consume other creatures.
I don't take medicine anyways... like, I've not been on anti-biotics since I was very young... but yeah, unless maybe I'd die, and even then... honest answer...
"I can see shying away from some animal products for health reasons"
Try all animal products. Why would I want to drink something designed to nuture a 350-pound calf? Since when is that kind of fat or lactose what the human body needs? I doubt it... because most ethnic groups have a 80% or higher population inflicted with lactose intolerance... even white americans are at about 20%, which is probably because we've developed some type of immunity.
You said "humans are omnivores, its in our nature and blood to consume other creatures"... I don't agree:
We are not physically equipped to eat meat/animal products. Dairy/eggs are one thing, some people can take it, others can't. Whatever. But we have to LIGHT OUR MEAT ON FIRE to kill most of the bacterias/etc. that our bodies are not designed to handle. No other meat eater does this besides certain types of foxes/scavengers. Humans ate meat because for a time, we couldn't get adaquate fruits/veggies/etc. We have the mental capacity to think "hey, if I roast this in fire and kill what would otherwise kill me, I might be OK and be able to satisfy my hunger", so we ate meat for awhile. I would imagine we continued to eat in because of the taste or the ease of getting a lot of protein from one place.
And as far as not eating pork because of how pigs are treated, NO ANIMAL is treated well when being raised for meat. I don't mean the death of the animal itself... we all die and many animals kill for food, and I don't feed my dogs tofu... however, I recongize that humans DO NOT require meat and thus can alleaviate (spelling?) the suffering of factor farmed animals (I won't go into conditions here... watch "The Meatrix" or google factory farms...). Hell, milk and the veal industry are hand-in-hand. I can't allow myself to directly or indirectly contribute to that suffering.
Consider this: every other meat-eater on this planet would salivate at the thought or site or hunting down a (for instance) rabbit and ripping it apart (with it's claws and sharp teeth*, which humans don't have), then devouring it whole, raw, blood and all. Most humans generally don't jump at the opportunity to eat a rotting animal carcass... unlike meat-eaters... and meat-eaters could handle (hell, it's good for them) eating said things... humans couldn't. Humans who do (I haven't heard of many) are usually considered insane (sadistic, mentally handicapped) or revolting.
*Don't claim that humans have fangs... my ****ing pet dogs fangs make mine look like a joke, and I have nice, sharp teeth for a human. Human's teeth are for biting through fruit, not hide.
Blah blah blah... I'm not going to wrap this up... I've typed enough...
(I'm eating a banana, so I thought I'd throw that in for good measure)
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