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    Quote Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
    lol when it really came to the crunch, GeoHot ran away with his balls in his ass and tail between his legs.

    Anyone who thinks that GeoHot was in the scene for us - is a complete moron.
    Anyone who doesn't see GeoHot as an egotistical maniac - is also a moron.

    Its funny how GeoHot prevented you using your stolen games, but you are butt loving him, what's with that >.<




    Of course it is...




    It was created in an effort to bait Mathieulh and unfortunately he responded, this is what i hate about the crappy takeover, garyopa would never had allowed this crap to go on before

    The reason i haven't mentioned or quoted @xPreatorianx is because he has some validity in what he says, if you create something that eventually gets used for piracy, then unfortunately you are inadvertently responsible for piracy, it may not be a nice thought, but it is an un deniable fact.

    For example:
    Robert Oppenheimer was responsible for creating the Atomic Bomb.
    Did he kill all those innocent people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki - No
    Was he inadvertently responsible for their deaths - Yes

    So...
    Mathieulh was responsible for the creation of PSGroove.
    Did Mathieulh/PSGroove create piracy on the PS3 - No
    Where Mathieulh/PSGroove inadvertently responsible for a free way to play pirate games on the PS3 - Yes

    Now it is no secret that i have huge respect for Mathieulh.
    Even though i hate GoeHots attitude/Ego, i still have huge respect for him

    Basically what im saying is all this attacking, insulting, flaming is not needed and completely uncalled for.
    who gives a f what geo prevented he at least did release something
    and as to my knowledge this has nothing to do with piracy ..i was and am against all sorts of piracy as i stated in my EVERY post
    EGOhot and superMATH are from the same comic book

    and hell why do you respect math ? lets say that geohot hacked the iphone (and shared with ...lets say the WORLD) not to mention that he had lawsuits from apple ,what the **** math did to earn your respect ?psgroove ? i give it like 2weeks + and the chinese would of come out with it ,
    lets se

    psdowngrade he stated that he knew how to do it and not share it
    3.56 he had the exploid and did not share it
    QA hack that he posted videos he did not share it
    3.56 downgrade with infectus he does not share it

    so why the fu.ck do you respect the guy ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
    lol when it really came to the crunch, GeoHot ran away with his balls in his ass and tail between his legs.
    Yes, true.
    He threat sony as the little thief he was.
    "you are not secure, contact me.." wtf???
    Do the same, go into a house of someone, take something as pictures or credit card and after send them a letter and say:
    "you are not secure, contact me.."

    Sony was nice with him to don t punish him as he need to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
    The reason i haven't mentioned or quoted @xPreatorianx is because he has some validity in what he says, if you create something that eventually gets used for piracy, then unfortunately you are inadvertently responsible for piracy, it may not be a nice thought, but it is an un deniable fact.
    Math did it because it was inevitable.

    Quote Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
    For example:
    1-Robert Oppenheimer was responsible for creating the Atomic Bomb.
    2-Did he kill all those innocent people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki - No
    3-Was he inadvertently responsible for their deaths - Yes
    1- not only, einstein did also a lot.
    2- yes, they knew for sure what was the purpose of their work. It was during war time, not like if their work was use years afters.
    3- yes but not only him.

    But don t matter because we are not like others country who like to complain because they loose a war or even sell themselves between them and after cry seculars after.
    So please, since we are speaking about games and Hiroshima or Nagasaki is a complex and sensitive case for a lot of people, don t compare with trivial subject like video game.
    Your all speech means nothing after that, speaking about wwII for explain your points make your points not validate. Just sound strange or stupid. Sorry but it is, we are speaking about video games and who is the king of the geek.


    I like Sony first, they take big risk and provide a good hardware as a ps3 (loosing a lot of money for first years)

    I like Sony second also because I m not neutral at all.

    I like Squarepusher and Preat because they don t give lessons about piracy.
    I like a little less Math because he make the qa flag as a big adventure chase (but it s probably over and the time to reveal but anyway) but don t like when he use excuse as piracy or afraid of sony.

    I have one question for Math:

    I understand you are against piracy etc.. but you say right here you have loaders and keys in August 2010 (even long time before but you wasn t so bored to fill the applications)
    So... at least you were supporting the dongle $$ since you wait until the last second to release keys (before overflow ll do)

    Can you explain this point and the feeling than i can you was happy about dongle $$.
    I didn t mention the fact than you tease with npdrm eys and right after (2 days after) cobra usb was announce.
    Last edited by Chanel; 06-12-2011 at 09:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanel View Post
    Yes, true.
    He threat sony as the little thief he was.
    "you are not secure, contact me.." wtf???
    Do the same, go into a house of someone, take something as pictures or credit card and after send them a letter and say:
    "you are not secure, contact me.."

    Sony was nice with him to don t punish him as he need to be.



    Math did it because it was inevitable.


    1- not only, einstein did also a lot.
    2- yes, they knew for sure what was the purpose of their work. It was during war time, not like if their work was use years afters.
    3- yes but not only him.

    But don t matter because we are not like others country who like to complain because they loose a war or even sell themselves between them and after cry seculars after.
    So please, since we are speaking about games and Hiroshima or Nagasaki is a complex and sensitive case for a lot of people, don t compare with trivial subject like video game.
    Your all speech means nothing after that, speaking about wwII for explain your points make your points not validate. Just sound strange or stupid. Sorry but it is, we are speaking about video games and who is the king of the geek.


    I like Sony first, they take big risk and provide a good hardware as a ps3 (loosing a lot of money for first years)

    I like Sony second also because I m not neutral at all.

    I like Squarepusher and Preat because they don t give lessons about piracy.
    I like a little less Math because he make the qa flag as a big adventure chase (but it s probably over and the time to reveal but anyway) but don t like when he use excuse as piracy or afraid of sony.

    I have one question for Math:

    I understand you are against piracy etc.. but you say right here you have loaders and keys in August 2010 (even long time before but you wasn t so bored to fill the applications)
    So... at least you were supporting the dongle $$ since you wait until the last second to release keys (before overflow ll do)

    Can you explain this point and the feeling than i can you was happy about dongle $$.
    I didn t mention the fact than you tease with npdrm eys and right after (2 days after) cobra usb was announce.
    Wow, he was using those statements as examples. Nothing more nothing less. He wasn't trying to give a history lesson. Also his examples weren't stupid. Not to be rude but maybe you need a slightly better grasp of the English language to understand what he meant? Again I don't mean to be rude by that statement. I'm just saying his examples make logical sense, and were used as examples in his argument. Nothing more nothing less.

    Yea I seriously think you are taking those things way out of context. This wasn't a stab at the Japanese people. So you need to reread his reply m8. You are getting bent over examples. Basically those examples were exactly the same like what I did with mine. They were merely putting the word in the context of a correct sentence. In this case it was about piracy and the validity of math inadvertently contributing to piracy. Key word for his argument was inadvertently. He wasn't trying to offend the Japanese. Also WWII is a sensitive subject on all sides. Not just for the Japanese people.

    I may not agree with his entire argument. But I have to say your taking it to the extreme.

    But this is the year 2011. WWII has been over for many years. Forgive and forget and move on.

    EDIT: I thumbed you up because of some of your statements. I like the questions towards math .

    Final note : I mean no disrespect in this reply. I'm merely pointing out I think that you took those statements for something more then what they actually were. that's all.
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    Just face it, math is a fame wh0re but a coward one.

    It's all talk and nothing else..

    Geo gave ALOT to the iphone scene..after that he became a media wh0re aswell.

    Math speaking in riddles on this forum is what turns him on, typical attention whoring if you ask me.

    And as a sidenote, doesnt matter if you download ps3 games, movies, softwares...its still piracy so get off your high horses please?

    If someone finds the combo for QA, math will be there and say "I knew this 1993"..whats new with him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by baracuda View Post
    who gives a f what geo prevented he at least did release something
    Meh, he released a pointless piece of shit CFW, that nobody really cared about, he did it so all the GeoHot fanboy/groupies would give him head, deep throat style, he did for his lame ego and he couldn't have done it without the help of fail0verflows tools, which he had to be chastised to source.

    Now i respect mathieulh, because i respect people that actually help in the scene, do i think he handles some things wrong, hell yes, do i think he sometimes seeks flaming, yes, but that isn't going to stop me respecting him.

    You see i have always respected people for what they have done, not for what they wont do.




    Quote Originally Posted by Chanel View Post
    Sony was nice with him to don t punish him as he need to be.
    Yeah id be nice to him too, if he bent over and took it like a bitch for me, just as he did for Sony.



    Quote Originally Posted by Chanel View Post
    So please, since we are speaking about games and Hiroshima or Nagasaki is a complex and sensitive case for a lot of people, don t compare with trivial subject like video game.
    Your all speech means nothing after that, speaking about wwII for explain your points make your points not validate. Just sound strange or stupid. Sorry but it is, we are speaking about video games and who is the king of the geek.
    Either you have a very low I.Q, or you simply don't understand what the word "EXAMPLE" means, www.google will help you with that, i cant take you serious nor converse with you much longer, because your statement was just meh.


    EDIT:
    I just seen the poll and hell yes this stupid thread should be closed, im quite glad im not a moderator here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robocrop View Post
    Just face it, math is a fame wh0re but a coward one.

    It's all talk and nothing else..

    Geo gave ALOT to the iphone scene..after that he became a media wh0re aswell.

    Math speaking in riddles on this forum is what turns him on, typical attention whoring if you ask me.
    Even it s off-topic thread,
    Naming them with insults is not fair. Ok i was also a bit too much with Math (not about Geohot the little thief because he was trying to blackmail Sony)
    My english isn t so good as i wish I ll reformulate my question for Math:
    You prevent people about piracy (and not just one time) but it seems than you never care to stop the dirty dongle business, and as you say you was since august 2010 able to.
    It was really dirty because people who (stupidly) spent dozens dollars on it will not buy anymore games. So if in august or so, instead of release the inevitable you released loaders and others stuffs (and saying instead of buying dongles people can wait for a free solution and buy games instead of) you were able to stop or reduce this dirty business. Like right now about the cobra usb.
    so why? or i m so incorrect?

    GregoryRasputin: forget about my word, just it was incorrect to you to bring wwII here. You was wrong. It can happen.
    And btw i m Japanese, so your example about IQ was not totally wrong because we have one the highest average IQ on the planet (probably the best if koreans don t cheat or lies on that sort of useless test) but may be i m a rare case of low IQ person on my country. But even if i was, this doesn t mean your example was appropriate (to don t say i was stupid).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanel View Post
    GregoryRasputin: forget about my word, just it was incorrect to you to bring wwII here. You were wrong. It can happen.
    Im sorry......,sorry you don't have the damn mentality to understand what an "Example" is.

    I bring WWII everywhere, especially when i call Sony a Nazi, do i care that it offends people, no, not really, you see the world is far to filled with analy retentive people, people stuck in the past.

    WWII happened many years ago, as did the Slavery of the Black man, as did the persecution of Irish people at the hand of the British, etc, etc, etc.

    The main point of my post, was every action has a reaction, if you dont understand that, get a brain.

    EDIT:
    You claim Japanese have the highest I.Q, well what the hell happened you O.o

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
    Meh, he released a pointless piece of shit CFW, that nobody really cared about, he did it so all the GeoHot fanboy/groupies would give him head, deep throat style, he did for his lame ego and he couldn't have done it without the help of fail0verflows tools, which he had to be chastised to source.

    Now i respect mathieulh, because i respect people that actually help in the scene, do i think he handles some things wrong, hell yes, do i think he sometimes seeks flaming, yes, but that isn't going to stop me respecting him.

    You see i have always respected people for what they have done, not for what they wont do.






    Yeah id be nice to him too, if he bent over and took it like a bitch for me, just as he did for Sony.





    Either you have a very low I.Q, or you simply don't understand what the word "EXAMPLE" means, www.google will help you with that, i cant take you serious nor converse with you much longer, because your statement was just meh.


    EDIT:
    I just seen the poll and hell yes this stupid thread should be closed, im quite glad im not a moderator here...
    geohots CFW was not worthless and still there are people using it
    it was the first 3.50 then 3.55 jailbreak that allowed signed aplications to install (homebrew) and that was ok with me

    as 4 math i state that RESPECT is a big thing and its GAINED you have to do something to earn it

    i have nothing in personal with him and have nothing in common he is a reverse engeneering genius and im a old
    school gamer .but the statements that he makes are outrageous

    "do some fu.cking work" what is that ? if i had his talent the scene would be moving forward and not stuck with this bullshit threats
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    Geohot was cool. Math is too but you're also a c@nt! Case closed for me. Whoever wants to say whatever go ahead.

    Anyways, Alice Eve is freakin HOT isn't she?! Holy shit I saw her in She's Out of My League, and damn I almost fell in love with that chick!!!
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    Gregory is just a Math follower, nice try getting into their ''elite group'' via twitter, rofl.

    By the way, you look ridiculous tweeting with those ''elitists'' on how ''omg the ps3 scene is boring, pathetic''. Idiot.
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