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[Reach]

And yes I drive a Honda. OK its an Ac, but it was made in japan. And no bodykit.

[Toma]

FWD, in all honesty, doesn't make for a good anything other than an economy car; that's why it became so popular because America's love affair with the big block V8 came to a screeching halt. A FWD car with the same power and torque ratings as a RWD or an AWD will still end up at the bottom of the pack in almost all respects because of the inherent flaws of the setup (traction loss, severe understeer, etc). Usually they are lighter because the drivetrain requires less parts, but it can only take you so far. Of course an unlimited budget can make any car a supercar, but that's a whole other can of worms.

[Primenal]

Of course an unlimited budget can make any car a supercar, but that's a whole other can of worms.

Yeah, it'd cost me about 5 grand to do, and there's no where to really race around my area so not really worth it. I'd never get to use the power because I live in W.V....A place where the speed limit is like 45 everywhere, mountains, curves, etc. Only thing I'd ever get out of a turbo would be to tell people "Yeah, it's turbo charged..." I seen some guy on Cardomain with 330 HP in a Saturn. Kind of crazy IMO to spend that much on a saturn insteand of buying you a brand new 06 car instead.

[Jit]

If I'd put a big turbo in my saturn I could get about 250 HP out of it by the time I'd be finished. 250 HP in a small, plastic car. Hardly anything could keep up with that.

You are wrong on that... a well built SOHC (civic) can make 403whp with a good tune. Here is proof

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1816286

Heres another SOHC civic at 257whp

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1558136

Also civics are light cars if you never knew that already..

GM makes them (made in America ), and the cars are quite fast (well DOHC, not SOHC)

Some civics come with DOHC motors too.. mainly the SI (USDM) and SIR but most people just swap the motor into there ex,cx or whatever they got.


PS: You can't just slap on a big turbo and be done with it you need to know what your doing.. for example you have to change your clutch, stronger internals,fuel pump, a tune etc etc

[XOXJunkyXOX]

you can run a turbo on a stock block but i wouldn't suggest putting it above 8lbs. Then again how big of a turbo are you talking about, and is it a hybrid.

[Primenal]

PS: You can't just slap on a big turbo and be done with it you need to know what your doing.. for example you have to change your clutch, stronger internals,fuel pump, a tune etc etc

Of course. Said I could get 250 HP by the time "I'm done with it." And that wasn't my whole debate. I didn't say anything was wrong with Honda's, or any cars for that matter. My whole point is it seems like more of the "honda" group of people look down on everything else. Like it's so shameful to fix up anything other than a Honda. And also your fixing up the same car that's been fixed up a million times. Honda with a kit? See em everywhere because people have the same mind set as you.
Again, you can fix up *any* car, make any car fast, make any car look good. Some would cost more than others, some wouldn't be worth fixing up in my eyes, but to each there own. Like Cavaliers. I don't see why people fix up a cavi, and then I realize I'm driving an Orange Saturn LOL.
Anyways, once I get done with it I'll be happy with the looks. Put together some kind of custom hood, get some nice black 17" or 18" rims to feel out the gap (wouldn't be able to drop it with kit). And that's all that matters in life...If your happy with it.