FMCB Piracy Policy - What?

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10-29-2011, 01:20 PM
SlimPS2_Dude

FMCB Piracy Policy - What?

So, I was just updating all my apps, and, anyways, I was reading through the guide found here.

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I agreed with most of what was mentioned, but, it states that if your game is stolen you no longer own it.

I totally disagree.

If your car gets stolen, it's still yours, that's why the police will recover it, etc,. Having property stolen does not mean you no longer own it, it means you no longer "possess" it, however, it still very much belongs to you. (That whole possession is 9\10 of the law thing, is total BS, try stealing something, and using that defense, I'll write you in prison..)

Regardless, If your policy was correct, I could take your home, your car, anything that is yours, and make it mine. Luckily, your policy is incorrect, and has no bearing on the world. (ie, your policy basically says that possession equates to ownership, ie, no longer possessing it, means you no longer own it, which is absolutely false to my knowledge.)

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Btw, I do appreciate FMCB, and do buy my games, etc,. I just happened to disagree with that one statement in your piracy policy, and seeing as there are 0 laws, to my knowledge that back it up, you may want to consider removing that part. (Up to you really, but it's has no legal backing to my knowledge.)

I keep receipts(and boxes), after having many things stolen over the years, to prove my ownership.. (Very useful for recovering stolen items, if you can find out who stole them, and where they went, etc. Or, for filing insurance claims, depending on the situation, etc,.)

I assure you, stolen things are yours, and you can recover\replace them using various methods, based on the fact that they are indeed still yours, despite being stolen. (ie, if your policy was correct, the police wouldn't return stolen goods, insurance companies wouldn't have theft insurance, etc,.)
10-30-2011, 01:30 AM
chessplayerj

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Originally Posted by SlimPS2_Dude

Having property stolen does not mean you no longer own it, it means you no longer "possess" it, however, it still very much belongs to you.

I do agree; however, I did rebuy most of my stolen games (that is, the ones I didn't buy, I had no desire to play, and I didn't download them or anything like that). Plus, I bought one over that wasn't stolen, but the case was. It really is great to have the original case, disc, and manual. Plus, you know that you helped the economy :)
10-30-2011, 06:59 PM
cerebr_al

I think the point is, yes game disc/image you had stolen, remains yours however, the copy of the game you had on the game disc does not remain yours to use until you replace the game disc, either by finding it or having it returned to you or purchasing another copy.

BTW, I don't agree with it either. If you paid your money, you've acquired the rights to play the game and if you've been canny enough to backup the game in case it got stolen or damaged, good on you! :)
10-30-2011, 09:41 PM
magimog

Officer : "So why did you steal this car?"
You : "Upon reviewing the piracy policy of FMCB I ruled all other laws pertaining to personal property worthless. I cannot find a difference between laws and scene advice so there are none!"
Officer : *beats you with a nightstick*
11-01-2011, 02:02 PM
SlimPS2_Dude

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I think the point is, yes game disc/image you had stolen, remains yours however, the copy of the game you had on the game disc does not remain yours to use until you replace the game disc, either by finding it or having it returned to you or purchasing another copy.

When you buy a game, and more importantly open it, you become bound by the EULA, which grants you the right to play that copy of the game. You also have a right to make a backup, which is a copy of the game (you obtained the rights to play).

Thus, same difference, it's still yours.

Bottom line, ownership is just that, you own it, until you transfer ownership to someone else, or throw it away(which puts ownership up for grabs.). Theft is not a valid means for obtaining ownership. (So, if a game is stolen, ownership is not transferred, thus, the original property owner still owns the property, despite lack of possession.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by magimog

Officer : "So why did you steal this car?"
You : "Upon reviewing the piracy policy of FMCB I ruled all other laws pertaining to personal property worthless. I cannot find a difference between laws and scene advice so there are none!"
Officer : *beats you with a nightstick*

I'll assume this was a joke? (But, just in case...)

Piracy policies are not advice, they are rules, and due to the nature of this site, breaking those rules can get you banned, hence my complaint about that particular statement in the policy. (These ppl are walking a very fine legal line, thus, they have strict rules to keep the site from being shutdown.)

As for your response itself: I said nothing of the sort, I only demonstrated how real world laws pertaining to the subject work, and would work had their statements held true. (ie, examples, made to help prove my point.)

In any case, I don't care what you think, I was simply trying to save some poor soul from being banned based on that rule, which is in my opinion wrong.