[OPL] Internal HDD FAT32 compatible ?

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11-12-2010, 05:49 PM
chtom

[OPL] Internal HDD FAT32 compatible ?

Hi,

Sorry for my poor english.
I have got a internal HDD (HDL format). Actually, I use OPL v0.7 : all is alright !

I want use next release :

I compile last rev (r486 from crazyc)
This release can be use a internal HDD FAT32 format ?
If Yes, tree of the only one partition seem te be :

\SCES_xxx.xx.GAMETITLE1.ISO
\SCES_yyy.yy.GAMETITLE2.ISO
_\ART
__\SCES_xxx.xx_COV.jpg
__\SCES_xxx.xx_ICO.png
__\SCES_xxx.xx_BG.jpg
__\SCES_yyy.yy_COV.jpg
__\SCES_yyy.yy_ICO.png
__\SCES_yyy.yy_BG.jpg
_\THM
__\Alienware.zip
__\FFXIII.zip
_\VMC
__\SCES_xxx.xx_VMC0.bin
__\SCES_yyy.yy_VMC0.bin

Is it correct ?

Thank you very much !
11-13-2010, 01:48 PM
Klink

As far as i know dosen't matter the rev of OPL your useing an internal HDD still needs its own PS2 Format which can be done with WinHiip.

Please correct me if i'm wrong the more technical people on this forum but i'm pretty sure that it still needs its own PS2 Format
11-14-2010, 01:37 AM
emerson3x

Quote:

Originally Posted by chtom

Hi,

Sorry for my poor english.
I have got a internal HDD (HDL format). Actually, I use OPL v0.7 : all is alright !

I want use next release :

I compile last rev (r486 from crazyc)
This release can be use a internal HDD FAT32 format ?
If Yes, tree of the only one partition seem te be :

\SCES_xxx.xx.GAMETITLE1.ISO
\SCES_yyy.yy.GAMETITLE2.ISO
_\ART
__\SCES_xxx.xx_COV.jpg
__\SCES_xxx.xx_ICO.png
__\SCES_xxx.xx_BG.jpg
__\SCES_yyy.yy_COV.jpg
__\SCES_yyy.yy_ICO.png
__\SCES_yyy.yy_BG.jpg
_\THM
__\Alienware.zip
__\FFXIII.zip
_\VMC
__\SCES_xxx.xx_VMC0.bin
__\SCES_yyy.yy_VMC0.bin

Is it correct ?

Thank you very much !

The latest OPL rev486 is from Ifcaro not from Crazyc. If you can compile on your own, why are you still using Crazyc's fork? Ifcaro's fork and Crazyc's fork already merge. You should use Ifcaro's fork because all of Crazyc's great work has been merge with it.

For your question: PS2 Internal HDD is not compatible with FAT32. It uses a PlayStation File System or PFS not FAT32. Use WinHIIP to format your Internal HDD and it will automatically format it to use the correct file system that the PS2 use. You can also use WinHIIP to install and remove your PS2 games.
11-14-2010, 04:17 AM
chtom

The latest OPL rev486 is from Ifcaro not from Crazyc. If you can compile on your own, why are you still using Crazyc's fork? Ifcaro's fork and Crazyc's fork already merge. You should use Ifcaro's fork because all of Crazyc's great work has been merge with it.

For your question: PS2 Internal HDD is not compatible with FAT32. It uses a PlayStation File System or PFS not FAT32. Use WinHIIP to format your Internal HDD and it will automatically format it to use the correct file system that the PS2 use. You can also use WinHIIP to install and remove your PS2 games.

Ok thank you for your reply.
I compile r486 from Ifcaro.

Internal HDD use HDL format only... :(.
Why USB HDD use FAT32 ?
11-15-2010, 09:43 PM
dlanor

Quote:

Originally Posted by chtom

Internal HDD use HDL format only... :(.

Yes, because those Sony APA drivers are the only device drivers available for the internal HDD interface.

Quote:

Why USB HDD use FAT32 ?

Because FAT32 is the only mass storage device driver available for the PS2 USB interface.

On each device we can only use filesystems that we have device drivers for.
It is that simple.

Best regards: dlanor
11-16-2010, 06:11 AM
chtom

Thank you for these explains.

With my PC (windows), what is tool can use for :
- Create a partition "OPL"
- Get the contents of this partition to add the capture screens (and other).

I can do it using PS2 but it's easier with the PC ....

sub : I need erase my HDD, create OPL partition and send my ISO with WINHIIP or simply add an OPL partition after my HDL partition contening my games ?

Regards
11-19-2010, 11:19 AM
dlanor

Quote:

Originally Posted by chtom

Thank you for these explains.

With my PC (windows), what is tool can use for :
- Create a partition "OPL"
- Get the contents of this partition to add the capture screens (and other).

You can't do that on a PC, as it lacks support for Sony's APA filesystem.

Quote:

I can do it using PS2 but it's easier with the PC ....

No. Without PC software supporting the filesystem it is not easy at all, but impossible.

There was one PC tool developed for such purposes, but it had a very strong tendency to corrupt the entire HDD content (even partitions you didn't touch). So that tool is no longer used, and I won't even mention it by name. It is useless, so forget that it ever existed.

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sub : I need erase my HDD, create OPL partition and send my ISO with WINHIIP or simply add an OPL partition after my HDL partition contening my games ?

What you need to do now depends on the state of your HDD.

If the HDD is healthy and already formatted for use with PS2 software like HDLoader, then you don't need to do any formatting, as OPL uses the same format and game partition method. So any HDLoader games will be 'adopted' for use by OPL.

If the HDD is corrupted or contains PC filesystems, then you do need to reformat, which you can do using either WinHiip on a PC, or using HDLoader or uLaunchELF (aka: uLE) on the PS2.

After formatting you need to create the "+OPL" folder on the HDD, which is easiest done using uLE.

To do these tasks in uLE, use its FileBrowser to launch MISC/HddManager, where you can use the R1 button to open a menu holding the commands "Format" (to completely reformat the entire HDD) and "Create" (to create a user partition from free space on the HDD).

When you enter the partition name you should specify it just as "OPL", as the "+" character is a mandatory prefix for user partitions, so that is added automatically.

Installation of games to the HDD can be done in several ways:

1: The old game loader HDLoader can install games directly from CDVD discs.
-- These games can then be used by OPL as well.

2: An installation server was made for HDLoader to install games over network,
-- and newest beta revisions of OPL have a similar server as part of the main program.
-- Both servers allow a client named HDL_Dump to be used on a PC to install games.

3: A PC program named WinHiip can be used to install games directly to the PS2 HDD.
-- To do so the HDD is detached from the PS2 and instead connected to the PC.
-- This is the fastest method to install many games at once.
-- But not worth the trouble just for installing a single game. (use network instead)

Btw:
On the internal HDD installed games are not stored as files at all. Instead each game ISO is copied almost as-is to a custom partition all its own. So each game IS a partition of its own, in a custom partition format not using any normal filesystem. Each game ISO stored this way naturally does contain the normal UDF and ISO9660 filesystems, but there is no way to access either of those, except by running the game.

Best regards: dlanor
11-19-2010, 12:45 PM
chtom

Thank for explain.

I have already find solution to create OPL partition.

My HDD is already in HDL format. I have simply create new partition : OPL and APPS.
I want move all apps into HDD (actually these are on MC)

I need look theme/screenshoot for OPL now
and modify config FMCB to launch apps from hdd.

Regards
11-19-2010, 01:07 PM
dlanor

Quote:

Originally Posted by chtom

Thank for explain.

I have already find solution to create OPL partition.

My HDD is already in HDL format. I have simply create new partition : OPL and APPS.
I want move all apps into HDD (actually these are on MC)

Some can be moved to HDD, but not all.
It is recommended that you keep at least uLaunchELF (aka: uLE) on MC.
This is not because uLE has any problem with HDD (it does not), but only because you must have some program that is capable of starting others from HDD.

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I need look theme/screenshoot for OPL now

There are some themes available in other threads here.

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and modify config FMCB to launch apps from hdd.

That is impossible since FMCB does not have any HDD support.

The boot files used for FMCB do not have room for adding HDD support. In fact there was not even room for complete USB support, but fortunately that could be solved by putting the USB device drivers on MC separately, but for the HDD support that would not suffice.

There simply isn't room in the KELF files used for booting to also add the routines required for HDD support in FMCB. And we still can not create new KELF files from scratch, but can only use the ones already available in bios ROMs.

So for HDD access you will have to start some program from MC/USB first.
For the present this limitation is absolute, so learn to live with it.

And the normal choice is then to have uLaunchELF stored on MC,
just like it is done by the normal FMCB installation packages.

You can then use uLE to launch anything you please from HDD.

Best regards: dlanor
11-19-2010, 02:04 PM
chtom

Ok, I anderstand : I keep my MC as...

I add some emulator and SMS for example to my partition APPS.

So, I go read how use VMC...

Thank a lot