Why the PS3 needs a WinHIIP style application for the PC, badly

**part34** · 05-08-2011,10:56 PM

First of all I bet your wondering, what is WinHIIP? For the Ps2 generation WinHIIP is a application that allows you to connect your PS2 formated HDD to your computer. When connected it will recognize your PS2 Formated Drive and allow you to do a number things:

Repair/restore a broken file system
Add games via usb/pata
Change formats and even add patches

This is a crucial application that will would help with random failures, bad file systems and loading games. This method takes a few minutes for large 4GB game to be installed.

Unfortunately, there is no PS3 version of this application. With the CFW installs, PS1/2/3 Gamesaves you may have on your console, Large applications, movies, games and other critical data a simple file error or bad OS install will put you out of luck and you will most likely need to format and replace all of your data.

While backing up your data may save you from loss, you will have to go through HOURS of ftp your data back on to your HDD if it is over 4GB worth.

The good news is that all the tools necessary are available to create such a application! Graf Chokolo has Cracked the Encrypted format of the PS3 system. We are now able (through Linux) to decrypt PS3 formated drives and take a look inside.

The PS3 file structure has been know for some time so implementing a program to repair bad file structures wouldn't be that hard to accomplish.

So this is my plea, If you want this application make some noise to any software developers with this knowledge. Please, this application is badly needed!

(I totally messed up my Drives file structure and the recovery menu won't fix it, too many saves to give up on T_T)

**part34** · 05-08-2011,11:03 PM

Ah, I think this thread might be better in the PS3 Technical Development section, could a mod move it for me? Free rep?

**amp2006** · 05-09-2011,01:38 AM

moved

**magimog** · 05-09-2011,01:47 AM

It seems the reason that program exists is because there is really no way to do it on the PS2 without the bottlenecks of USB 1.1. Megabit FTP is much faster than the USB 2.0 speeds that a converter would allow you on a PC.

PS3 patches can be deployed using either .pkg or by FTP'ing files over to their respective directories. Those patches are often tiny so speed isn't an issue. The PS3 has it's own backup utility for petes sake! You can either FTP all saves/data that you accumulated after the backup or just put those on a flash drive.

It would take hours to achieve the result you want over all of those layers as opposed to learning the PS3 file system and applying changes/backing up yourself through an FTP program.

Just my 2 cents.

**part34** · 05-09-2011,10:39 AM

True, however if you hook up a HDD via sata that file transfer would go even faster. I could only get to speeds of 10 MBPS for ftping and it took 10 hours to transfer 80GB of data

.

For people who have bad file structures and are unable to get the PS3's Recovery menu's to restore there ps3 are basically out of all there data. Meaning they can't even access there system without a format. This would also let you upgrade to a larger HDD very quickly.

It would be worth while to have a second option because even a bad install will break the file structure.

**Player1** · 05-12-2011,05:27 AM

WinHiip has nothing to do with speed ... Its about control over what you do, no matter WHERE you have the HDD, connected or not to the console.

I use winhiip almost daily and is a wonderfull tool to keep the game system safe and clear.

I m thinking that in ps3 case we need a program that could do the same things that usbutil+winhiip+uLE together.

Ftp is an option, but the solution is a program like that, no matter how you transfer data.
I work with consoles, and some times i just need the costumer send me the PS2 hdd disk to check and modifie the game structure. No need the console at all.

But we need some acces to the PS3 system before we could use a winhiip style program.
I hope Graff Chokolo efforts could open up that gate some day.

Saludos!!!
PLAYER 1

**wing** · 05-12-2011,05:58 AM

Originally Posted by Player1

WinHiip has nothing to do with speed ... Its about control over what you do, no matter WHERE you have the HDD, connected or not to the console.

I use winhiip almost daily and is a wonderfull tool to keep the game system safe and clear.

I m thinking that in ps3 case we need a program that could do the same things that usbutil+winhiip+uLE together.

Ftp is an option, but the solution is a program like that, no matter how you transfer data.
I work with consoles, and some times i just need the costumer send me the PS2 hdd disk to check and modifie the game structure. No need the console at all.

But we need some acces to the PS3 system before we could use a winhiip style program.
I hope Graff Chokolo efforts could open up that gate some day.

Saludos!!!
PLAYER 1

I have a question " Does any ps3 can use the same WinHiip ?whatever it is which version?

**part34** · 05-12-2011,10:33 AM

Originally Posted by wing

I have a question " Does any ps3 can use the same WinHiip ?whatever it is which version?

Why the PS3 needs a WinHIIP style application for the PC, badly read the thread title buddy.

I also wanted to note that if someone's PS3 system dies/breaks down there is no way to transfer HDD ownership to another PS3. A program like this might be able to solve problems like ylod consoles that people just want to get rid of.

**defyboy** · 05-13-2011,08:46 AM

A good idea, I am currently deciphering and documenting several file formats on the PS3, one of these on my list is the PS3 Hard drive partition table and filesystem.

This is slightly incorrect as graf_chokolo has not broken the encryption on the hard drive, this is still secure as we know it. He has simply documented the methods required to disable hard drive encryption so the hard drive is written in plaintext.

**part34** · 05-13-2011,02:34 PM

@defyboy I'm glad your at least some one is working on it or has a mind to work on the PS3 HDD. Everyone is so busy trying to decrypt PSN games and get online and crack the lastest Firmware they tend to forget that we don't have critical tools to manage the data that is on the PS3.

I hope within the next few months that we can at least view the Contents of the HDD and Be able to swap different ps3 hdd's without the need of ftp or a system.

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