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  1. #1 Possibility of Ps2 emulator ver 40bg consoles based? 
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    If Sony tried to use software to 40gb consoles then exist a emulador in these old ps3, right?

    What are the chances of migrate these problematic but work emulator to other consoles with new exploit?

    We could have some cool ps2 games at least.

    Is possible in the future or absolutelly not for any not compatibillity?
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    it doesnt have the hardware for it..., but emulator and so on can be possible... but will be not so stable and need alot of time to improve it.
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    The emulator from sony is essentially incomplete given the current hardware.

    In rough terms if I remember correctly:
    The initial release PS3s had both the eMotion Engine Processor chip from the PS2 as well as its GPU chip to support the backward compatibility.

    For the later 40GB units you mention they removed the eMotion processor chip and (tried with some compatibility problems) to emulate it, but they kept the ps2 GPU chip.

    When they decided not to support the PS2 games at all, they yanked out the PS2 gpu, so the current hardware doesn't have it.

    So as the emulator doesn't emulate the ps2 gpu and the current hardware doesn't have it, its probably a no go.

    Someone theoretically could try to use the sony emu in conjuction with with something that emulates just the GPU portion, but without the source from the sony emu, this is likely more trouble that its worth.

    Its probably easier to port one of the open source ps2 emu's for PC, provided someone releases a robust enough legal SDK for the ps3. That I'm guessing is the current bottleneck.
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    I've heard that dev units can use Sony's emulator for ps2 games, even without the hardware. So it seems Sony made an emulator, but most likely it has trouble with the GS and is too slow to release.
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    easy answer is no.. it doesnt have the hardware for it yet...
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    Well, but with the box toy patented by sony?

    Sony as a patent for a box to be plugued to ps3 and bring back the retrocompatibility. This box have the hardware to process the ps2 games using the ps3 system.

    Nobody knows if or whren it will be avaliable, but i think it can be a way, with the jailbreak, to take the ps2 back.
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    A common misconception which I used to hold before learning from others on this site, is that there was never a case of PS3 models which emulated PS2 entirely in software. Evidence here:
    http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/08/40...ps2-emulation/

    However it makes one think that if the emulator could be decrypted and dumped, then it would probably be easier for devs to work from there, than to code a PS2 emulator entirely from scratch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma Hall View Post
    Well, but with the box toy patented by sony?

    Sony as a patent for a box to be plugued to ps3 and bring back the retrocompatibility. This box have the hardware to process the ps2 games using the ps3 system.
    can you prove it ? just because ps3 can do realtime HD graphics doesn't mean it's good for ps2 emulation, even if it is multicore.

    also, most emulators require many times more memory than the emulated hardware has. ps3 has 256mb of ram, while ps2 had 32mb. again, pcsx2 requires quite a lot of ram to work.

    also, computers that can run pcsx2 in realtime are pretty beefy configurations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshi314 View Post
    can you prove it ? just because ps3 can do realtime HD graphics doesn't mean it's good for ps2 emulation, even if it is multicore.

    also, most emulators require many times more memory than the emulated hardware has. ps3 has 256mb of ram, while ps2 had 32mb. again, pcsx2 requires quite a lot of ram to work.

    also, computers that can run pcsx2 in realtime are pretty beefy configurations.

    Sony patent for last-gen console adapter surfaces | Joystiq

    and on here to


    http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/sony-...adapter-66027/ (Sony Files Patent for Backwards Compatibility Adapter)


    although its not been confirmed its still sort of proof
    LOL --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AzpByR3MvI
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshi314 View Post
    can you prove it ? just because ps3 can do realtime HD graphics doesn't mean it's good for ps2 emulation, even if it is multicore.

    also, most emulators require many times more memory than the emulated hardware has. ps3 has 256mb of ram, while ps2 had 32mb. again, pcsx2 requires quite a lot of ram to work.

    also, computers that can run pcsx2 in realtime are pretty beefy configurations.
    But one presumes Sony are capable of making a perfect software emulator of their own hardware. Look at the amazing PS1 emulator on PSP as a precedent.
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