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[Thecourier]

In an act of foolish "I wanna play on PSN (like it's actually fun or something)", I updated my ps3 to 3.61.

I would like to know which tools to use to try and figure out the key, along with a compiler i could use to write the key to my own .pkg files.

Please don't come at me like "well if you don't know, then you shouldn't screw with it anyway". I like to learn. I don't need how-to's or current knowledge about it, just the tools.

In the event that the key is random per console, all you need to figure out is how to create the decryption on one, and the process will become replicable based on the practice. At that point it'll only revolve around the random number which could be picked a part through a series of manual (likely hardware) peek&pokes to the system while it's being accessed.

So, if you guys would like to write out a list of software based tools to accomplish this I'd be thankful, might end up bearing some fruits of labor as well.

PS. already aware of IDApro.

[VriskaBlack]

Unless you have a quantum computer, getting the new keys is pretty much a no-go.

[Thecourier]

Unless you have a quantum computer, getting the new keys is pretty much a no-go.

Derp, everyone always forgets the most efficient quantum computer. The human mind understands true, false, and unsure. There ya go, Binary+fuzzy logic. Gimme a good look at the algorithm, some time, and you bet your ass it can be found.

You don't need to bruteforce something you can pick apart piece by piece. Take the offer or leave it, I'm not interested in nay-saying.

[NuclearAqua]

If you are truly interested in finding out the 3.60 keys, this thread might be a good place to start.

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f149/win...olution-86488/ (Winocm's 3.60 Ram dump - Possible solution?)

[Slynk]

Derp, everyone always forgets the most efficient quantum computer. The human mind understands true, false, and unsure. There ya go, Binary+fuzzy logic. Gimme a good look at the algorithm, some time, and you bet your ass it can be found.

You don't need to bruteforce something you can pick apart piece by piece. Take the offer or leave it, I'm not interested in nay-saying.

You're ****ed. There's nothing you can do. Guess what, official firmware has no option to install .pkg files. Probably should have thought about that first. No way for you to even test if your keys are correct. Unless you want to decrypt, edit, and resign a file from the 3.61 pup but you pretty much have 1 shot at that. BRICK. Lets assume you found some magical way to test the keys. You'd have to find a flaw in ECDSA algorithm to sign a file as the private keys can no longer be calculated. You'd also need to dump the AES keys of which there are many. You'd need CMAC, HMAC, OMAC keys for varies things as well. I really don't understand what you think you could do? Break military grade encryption schemes? Maybe you're some hot shot mathematician with years of experience but I have my doubts.

Peek Poke on 3.61 OFW? Dream on. You don't even seem to know what security measures are used for the ps3. Yet you call people that refute your post "nay-sayers" when in reality they just have a better grasp of what needs to be done than you.

[St3ven]

You're ****ed. There's nothing you can do. Guess what, official firmware has no option to install .pkg files. Probably should have thought about that first. No way for you to even test if your keys are correct. Unless you want to decrypt, edit, and resign a file from the 3.61 pup but you pretty much have 1 shot at that. BRICK. Lets assume you found some magical way to test the keys. You'd have to find a flaw in ECDSA algorithm to sign a file as the private keys can no longer be calculated. You'd also need to dump the AES keys of which there are many. You'd need CMAC, HMAC, OMAC keys for varies things as well. I really don't understand what you think you could do? Break military grade encryption schemes? Maybe you're some hot shot mathematician with years of experience but I have my doubts.

Peek Poke on 3.61 OFW? Dream on. You don't even seem to know what security measures are used for the ps3. Yet you call people that refute your post "nay-sayers" when in reality they just have a better grasp of what needs to be done than you.

Damn dude, that was pretty harsh. But yeah slynk's right you need alot of experience and you really need to know what you are doing to crack 3.61 or newer firmwares. Sony made a
mistake once but there not as stupid to let it happen again. Off topic but i saw that you figured out how to QA Flag, Nice job.

[Slynk]

Damn dude, that was pretty harsh. But yeah slynk's right you need alot of experience and you really need to know what you are doing to crack 3.61 or newer firmwares. Sony made a
mistake once but there not as stupid to let it happen again. Off topic but i saw that you figured out how to QA Flag, Nice job.

Sorry. I love people wanting to help but I hate those who can't even do the most basic of research before posting. This thread would never have been made otherwise. There's a whole wiki dedicated to ps3 security measures not to mention a number of 3.6 threads with information on theories and new security measures. I don't see any thread beginning with "Tell me how to hack the new firmware and I'll do it" as ever going somewhere. All that says to me is "I don't have any interest in doing the necessary research to get anything done, do it for me."

[VriskaBlack]

If I remember correctly, wasn't there a way to install PKG files with PS3 Proxy?

[Slynk]

If I remember correctly, wasn't there a way to install PKG files with PS3 Proxy?

A quick google shows this: How to Install PKG Files From a PC

That what you mean? Don't think it would work anymore. Sony made a whitelist for all pre 3.6 npdrm encrypted apps with hashes. Meaning you couldn't make fake pkg. But that's interesting, I always wondered if it was possible.

[Robocrop]

Off topic but i saw that you figured out how to QA Flag, Nice job.

Orly?