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Originally Posted by uns97
Well someones either going to refund my money or recieve some nasty feedback if I end up with cheap fakes ... I'll email and see if they'll guarantee they are legit TY?s before I send payment.
Does this product description give any clues:
Taiyo Yuden's 8X speed DVD-R disks provide exceptional quality for general use and feature silver thermal surface configurations.
Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden (Verbatim OEM)
Media Type: DVD-R, DVDR Blank Media
Storage Capacity: 4.7GB
Recording Speed: 1X - 8X
Top Surface: Silver Top and No Stacking Ring
Damn! Their online store has them for $32 Canadian!
Quote from another forum I found - kivory666
from my knowledge of TY, that is the only determining factor that I have personally found...the GG00000 or the GD00000 marking on the inner hub. i have read on here that the new authentic ty's might also have the TG000000 markings on the inner circle, or something to that extent. that is basically how i determine the authenticity of the thousands of TYs that i have, 95% of mine have those laser etched numbers...while my KNOWN fakes have some crap like this:
-R8x DH-05-19. these are horrible.
Last edited by relaxxx; 05-01-2005 at 06:52 PM.
Originally Posted by relaxxx
Actually the easiest way to check quality is to buy a few, write them at different speeds, do some PI/PO scans, and if the results are EXCELLENT then go for it, if the error numbers are terrible then forget that. There were fake TDK media aswell, and to be honest once or twice I was asked what I wanted to be printed on the topside of the media, as I could have wished anything I just wanted they would have done that for me for FREE. So this is bussines you know, and to be honest it's a DIRTY bussines. As these days a disk costs less than 0.2 usd each, and the need for them are so great that many noname corportaions started to dump their shit just to get some extra money. Forget those names like Budget and Princo, some of the most wellknown ones, they sell crap, their products last for weeks and their warranty ? Is there any ? No... Just to mention some like Verbatim and Ricoh for example with EXCELLENT warranty conditions and extra quality. Does one really need more for less than a half buck ? I doubt.
Okay, I should be fine then. The media I ordered is being sold as TY. Presumably its the value line though.
Originally Posted by FIRED
I purchased 100 of the 4x DVD-Rs (TYG01 I think) and 50 of the 8x DVD+Rs (cant seem to find a MID). Anyone know how either of those stack up against the Ritek G04 / G05 ? Only game I'm really having trouble with is GTA:SA, which wont work for me at all off a G05 and has some pretty bad load times off a G04.
EDIT: What are you using to do your PI/PO scans ? Kprobe looks like the standard, but from what I understand it only works with LiteOn drives ?
To do a PI/PO test you can use the following softwares:
Plextools (PxScan for even better results) (Plextor)
Nero CD/DVD Speed (quality check) (some brands)
and DVDInfoPro has its own test too for some burners.
seems Plextools/PxScan is the best but the others also can give you some informations about quality. I mean, doing a fast test on two different disks will result in very different numbers, hehe... Look at some of my examples. Do not forget you need a drive that support PI/PO/Jitter test, a suitable firmware and the software. Use the latest Nero CD/DVD Speed, as older versions created some "interesting" but not real results. Yet another note that we have no exact clue how Nero CD/DVD Speed calculates the disk quality number. (to be honest it is not worth anything)
I'll let my junk Xbox drive be the test, it barely reads Ritek GO4's so if these read good, like my old TYG01 Media, I'll know they're good. Now if my V7 PS2 can barly read em' then I'll know they are complete junk!
i have a 100pk of TY 4x DVD-R's. since arrival, ive been suspecting them being fake. they work fine in any dvd player and console EXCEPT ps2. very odd i thought. i have a V9 with MI + romeo. anyhow, i stuck a test disc into my cheap dvd drive (if it can read on this, then it'll probably read on anything ) and ran PI/PIF Jitter test in DVDInfo. i saved a screencap. i have no idea what all the numbers mean. can anyone enlighten me? are my TYG01's fake
Which burner did you use to do the scan? I don't recognize the burner. To be honest DVDinfopro is a terible program to do error rate scans with and only the Lite-On, Plextor and Benq burners really support accurate error-rate scans. Anyways, it might help if you could post a direct link to the discs you bought as it would really help us narrow it down.
Heh that explains a lot. I was having trouble working out why a low pi/po error rate as reported by DVDInfoPro on my Pioneer drive didnt mean a working disc, while some of the discs with high error rates are perfect.
Originally Posted by FIRED
Time to buy a new burner I guess. I'm leaning towards a Lite-On (cheap, has Kprobe), unless anyone has any other recommendations ?
Whatever you do, don't use the Lite-On as a burner. Only use it for ripping or error rate scans as they aren't as good for producing good burns as Pioneer is. The folks over at CD-Freaks with multiple burners have found that their PI/PO scans were better when they burned the exact same media on an NEC or Pioneer than they did when they burned them with a Lite-On. So once again, go ahead and get a Lite-On but only use it for ripping or scans, don't use it as a replacement to your Pioneer burner. Lite-Ons are also more fussy (in general) with burning to media.
Benq, Plextor or NEC if a new burner is needed. All can do error scans, and all have excellent burning quality.